Looking for a traditional japanese jujitsu school in NJ

[ClaudeK]

Greetings,
I am interested in locating a traditional Japanese jujitsu or aikijitsu school in the NJ/NYC area.
Does anyone know of such a place?
Thanks.

[Naihanchin]

In Fair Lawn NJ

On Route 4(Broadway)

There is a very high level instructor

(7th or 8th dan) named Leslie Jefferson

He is the read deal: teaches a variant of Daito ryu

I think the dojo is called Aiki Jujitsu School of Self Defense

[sherwinc]

Originally Posted by Naihanchin

Naihanchin is the second kata (set patterns) of Okinawan Shorin Ryu Karate after 5 Kihon Kata's......

[GrdStorm]

Why?????????

[ClaudeK]

Unfortunately, I think the dojo in Fairlawn, NJ is closed. Would anyone know of a traditional Japanese jujitsu or aiki-jitsu school in New Jersey (or even NYC area)>

Thanks again!!

[GrdStorm]

Again... why????

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by GrdStorm

Again... why????

Why what???????

[GrdStorm]

Why would anyone want to train in Japanese Jiu Jitsu?

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by GrdStorm

Why would anyone want to train in Japanese Jiu Jitsu?

Why would anyone ask such an obvious asshole question? He wants to study, leave it at that.

[ClaudeK]

Greetings,
Thanks for the replies. To answer Mr. GrdStorm's question, I'm looking for a reputable school with experienced instructor(s) that will teach me a legitimate method of self-defense. I'm 39 years old and not looking to compete in tournaments. I began my martial arts training in New Jersey at the age of 14 (Japanese and Korean Karate). I spent the last 8 years of my life in the military, mostly overseas, and recently returned to New Jersey and would like to begin training again after more than 10 years away from martial arts. There's been a lot of changes while I was away. There are new martial art schools teaching styles I'm not familiar with (i.e., Brazilian Jujitsu, JKD, Philipino arts, Silat, etc.) . Traditional karate doesn't seem to be as popular as it once was...people are now looking at boxing and grappling arts.
Any ideas......
Regarding traditional schools, am I wasting my time looking for "the real thing"??

Thanks again.

[GrdStorm]

Ok, I apologize for sounding a bit harsh about the Japanese Jiu Jitsu thing. I am a firm believer in BJJ and Mixed Martial Arts. Even if you find a reputable school for Japanese Jiu Jitsu, I don't think you'll be at a proficient level for many years. If you train BJJ and other progressive martial arts (boxing, thai boxing, wrestling) then you will aquire a skill level that can be applied to a real fight within a couple months. You are learning and attaining useful information your first class.

Now I know that these martial arts can be a little intimidating and all with the ammount of contact you are put in but if you find a place where you train safe and train smart I don't think you'll have a problem. Also if you let them know ahead of time about your concerns for your safety, I think you will be accomadated accordingly. BJJ schools know that the public is concerned with injuries and most schools will take great measures to ease beginners into "rolling" or sparring.

I know there are many very good BJJ schools in New Jersey and I suggest you check those out.


P.S. Not to start an arguement with anyone but I have yet to see Japanese Jiu Jitsu work in a street fight for anyone. If a JJJ guy does well in a fight, I attribute his fighting skill more to his agressiveness than the art. On the flip side, BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, and Wrestling have been proven to work on the street and in the ring. You don't have to train to compete to apply the art to self-defense.

[wardancer]

The difference with Japan JJ and Brazil JJ:
BJJ: you learn techniques and 'pratice' on your training partners at 110% by rolling ("sparring"). That why it does work! Some of the dangerous leg lock have to be taken out of the repertoire but the advange of BJJ is that you can roll all the time and fully learn and master your positional skills ans submission skills. Even striking MA cannot train in such level and consisitency without getting serouisly injured.
JJJ: you learn techniques and cannot 'fully' practice on a 'unwilling' partner (no "sparring" because most techniques are 'too' dangerous. That why such system does not work! It's learning all those 'flashy' and deadly tricks but you never gonna get the chance to ever pratice them by sparring.
Oh well i should stop preaching the BJJ Bible...lol

[CHOKE UK]

Grdstorm and Wardancer are absolutely correct!

jap Trad j.j and bjja are similar only in name!

If you really want to learn the art then bjja and there are even some poor classes in that as well, but nowhere near as many!

I remember speaking to a quite experienced JJJ (JAPANEST JUI JITSU)
and he said that i was wasting my time as he knew so many more moves than I had ever even heard of!

As we battled i quickly realised he couldnt use any of them!
He was an expert at theory only !

I hadnt long started and just had a few basics but still made light work of him!
Not because of me but because of my training from a good class!

I have seen similar incidents on a number of occasions!

Make sure you investigate further before you commit!
JJJ masters of theory!
All that glitters is not gold!

[IPON]

Claudek you may want to ask this question on teh Japanese forum as welll