Difference between GJJ & BJJ ?

CrushingFist · 05-09-2004, 07:43 PM

I'm just wondering what are their differences?
GJJ are the family members of Gracie's that run with the last name right , or is it that BJJ is like an offshoot from GJJ .

IPON · 05-09-2004, 07:55 PM

There was another thread about this. But In short The Gracie faimily first learned JJ and there style spread through Brasil. So essntially GJJ and BJJ are the same but ofcourse differnt teacher may have a slightly different empahsis of sport vs SD training

CrushingFist · 05-09-2004, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IPON

There was another thread about this. But In short The Gracie faimily first learned JJ and there style spread through Brasil. So essntially GJJ and BJJ are the same but ofcourse differnt teacher may have a slightly different empahsis of sport vs SD training

Hmmm... Hard to understand

IPON · 05-09-2004, 08:39 PM

Gracie Jiu-Jitsu vs. BJJ

All BJJ lineage is from the Gracie family. Just as all Judo lineage is from Kano. A student of Kano went to Brasil and taught the Gracie's JJ/Judo circa early 1920's. The gracies established vale Tudo to test thier art and dojo to teach thier art as they learned from Maeda. I believe the Gracie's a trademark and copyright on the Gracie name so no one unauthorized can call thier style GRACIE JJ so everything is called Brasilian jiujitsu instead.

TylerDurden · 05-10-2004, 08:59 AM

People who don't want to pay Rorion use the BJJ name, that's the difference. Even his own brother Rickson's students use BJJ. Rorion claimed he was doing it to protect the name, but then took his own family members to court demanding payment for use of the name in the US. It's a money thing.

**HuSanYan** · 05-10-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CrushingFist

I'm just wondering what are their differences?

one starts with a G and one starts with a B,
hope this helps bud

**HuSanYan** · 05-10-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CrushingFist

Hmmm... Hard to understand

its an alphabet thing, don't worry yourself too much or you might end up with a headache

CrushingFist · 05-10-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HuSanYan

its an alphabet thing, don't worry yourself too much or you might end up with a headache

Lol, its not the first time this is always happening in the world of martial arts

GrdStorm · 05-11-2004, 12:11 AM

GJJ = BJJ
GJJ = BJJ

Just as Renzo Gracie JJ = BJJ and Rickson Gracie JJ = BJJ and Caesar Gracie JJ = BJJ and Royce Gracie JJ = BJJ Machado JJ = BJJ and so on and so on ...

Gracie JJ is Rorion's "brand" of BJJ, however its all BJJ.

CrushingFist · 05-11-2004, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GrdStorm

GJJ = BJJ
GJJ = BJJ

Just as Renzo Gracie JJ = BJJ and Rickson Gracie JJ = BJJ and Caesar Gracie JJ = BJJ and Royce Gracie JJ = BJJ Machado JJ = BJJ and so on and so on ...

Gracie JJ is Rorion's "brand" of BJJ, however its all BJJ.

I got it. So Gracie JJ is just basically the family Gracie uses the name, and BJJ others If a Person goes to learn Martial Art for his first time can he go into BJJ ?

TylerDurden · 05-11-2004, 08:24 AM

Gracie JJ is the name only certain Gracie family members use, because Rorion trademarked it. So if there is a BJJ school near you, or a Machado JJ school, it's the same thing.

GrdStorm · 05-11-2004, 09:19 AM

They brand it with their own name to differentiate their teaching methods and such however, like I said in another post, BJJ is BJJ. All the techniques are the same.

It would be if I taught Northern Mantis Style (for example) and called it Adam Liu Northern Mantis Style. Doesn't make the art different, just a slight variation in the name.

CrushingFist · 05-11-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerDurden

Gracie JJ is the name only certain Gracie family members use, because Rorion trademarked it. So if there is a BJJ school near you, or a Machado JJ school, it's the same thing.

There's both actually.

If a Person goes to learn Martial Art for his first time can he go into BJJ ?

CHOKE UK · 05-11-2004, 05:10 PM

najjfdave posted an excellent thread on this subject!

You find out v usefull info there

**Thai Bri** · 05-13-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CrushingFist

If a Person goes to learn Martial Art for his first time can he go into BJJ ?

Yes, of course he/'she can.

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IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,557	There was another thread about this. But In short The Gracie faimily first learned JJ and there style spread through Brasil. So essntially GJJ and BJJ are the same but ofcourse differnt teacher may have a slightly different empahsis of sport vs SD training __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

05-09-2004, 08:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,557	Gracie Jiu-Jitsu vs. BJJ All BJJ lineage is from the Gracie family. Just as all Judo lineage is from Kano. A student of Kano went to Brasil and taught the Gracie's JJ/Judo circa early 1920's. The gracies established vale Tudo to test thier art and dojo to teach thier art as they learned from Maeda. I believe the Gracie's a trademark and copyright on the Gracie name so no one unauthorized can call thier style GRACIE JJ so everything is called Brasilian jiujitsu instead. __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

05-11-2004, 12:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
GrdStorm Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 121	GJJ = BJJ GJJ = BJJ Just as Renzo Gracie JJ = BJJ and Rickson Gracie JJ = BJJ and Caesar Gracie JJ = BJJ and Royce Gracie JJ = BJJ Machado JJ = BJJ and so on and so on ... Gracie JJ is Rorion's "brand" of BJJ, however its all BJJ. __________________ chesst = loser

05-11-2004, 09:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
GrdStorm Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 121	They brand it with their own name to differentiate their teaching methods and such however, like I said in another post, BJJ is BJJ. All the techniques are the same. It would be if I taught Northern Mantis Style (for example) and called it Adam Liu Northern Mantis Style. Doesn't make the art different, just a slight variation in the name. __________________ chesst = loser

05-10-2004, 08:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
TylerDurden Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 161	People who don't want to pay Rorion use the BJJ name, that's the difference. Even his own brother Rickson's students use BJJ. Rorion claimed he was doing it to protect the name, but then took his own family members to court demanding payment for use of the name in the US. It's a money thing.

05-11-2004, 08:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
TylerDurden Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 161	Gracie JJ is the name only certain Gracie family members use, because Rorion trademarked it. So if there is a BJJ school near you, or a Machado JJ school, it's the same thing.

05-11-2004, 05:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
CHOKE UK Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: UNITED KINGDOM Posts: 374	najjfdave posted an excellent thread on this subject! You find out v usefull info there __________________ KATA : CHA-CHA-CHA!

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