Striking or grappling base?

[nwtogame]

Hey you guys think a beginner that one day would love to compete in NHB or something of the sort should have;
grappling with a lil striking background or
striking with a lil grappling base?

[darrianation]

Originally Posted by nwtogame

Hey you guys think a beginner that one day would love to compete in NHB or something of the sort should have;
grappling with a lil striking background or
striking with a lil grappling base?

This depends on the venues you would like to enter. For UFC style venues, Grappling is very important, I would probably start there, however if I had a choice I would train in something that teaches both. BJJ valeTudo style, Or other MMA. BJJ and MT make a good mix for NHB competitions.

I am a self-defense guy myself The first thing I teach a new student is basic grappling (how to fall, sprawling, things like that) but of course I begin him learning stances, jabs, and proper body mechanics on the first day too.

[Ronson]

I'll assume your a newbie and grant you amnesty from a brutal flame.

If one is thinking of going into "NHB" or more appropriately termed MMA competition, it would not be the wisest thing to come into the sport short in any base - today and as the sport continues to evolve, a firm grasp of stand-up and grappling/submissions base is fundamental to a successful athlete in the sport (not to mention the mental aspect along with strength and conditioning). While many athletes can get by with exceptional talent in one area and short in another, eventually they will come up against an opponent who will be better than them in the area they excel or will expose their area of relative weakness (i.e. Mirko Cro-Crop vs. Nogiera (sp?) - at the same time, had the fight gone another way, it would have been Cro-Crop exposing Nogiera's relative weakness in stand-up).

[JaredExtreme]

Well, if you're still in high school you shoud look into wrestling. It's usually free and it gives you amazing endurance and the ability to control your opponent.

If you really want to do nhb someday, it's doesn't really matter whether you begin with grappling or striking, as long as it's effective art. For example, it's generally better you spend your first year triaining Muay Thai as opposed to Shotokan Karate or Tae Kwon do.

[wardancer]

Originally Posted by nwtogame

Hey you guys think a beginner that one day would love to compete in NHB or something of the sort should have;
grappling with a lil striking background or
striking with a lil grappling base?

It does not matter, really.
You will need to learn both to succeed.
You might favour grappling over striking for e.g. but you will need to know both in order to compete in NHB.
You will not know wich style you favour until you train in both.
The ideal would be 50% striking and 50% grappling.
Or more like work on the style you are not so good at.
If you grappling with little striking background, opponent will keep a stand up game and vice-versa for the striker that has little grappling base.
There are execptions.

[kid-do]

I think a beginner should have a grappling base with a lil striking background because a striker can easily lose a fight by being submitted becuase they do not know how to grapple and rely on blows. But a grappler doesnt lose a fight that easy because if they are being punched they can easily counter a punch and turn it into an armbar or a triangle choke for the tapout.

[wardancer]

Originally Posted by kid-do

. But a grappler doesnt lose a fight that easy because if they are being punched they can easily counter a punch and turn it into an armbar or a triangle choke for the tapout.

Dude,
easily counter a punch and turn it into an armbar is NOT easily done as you say.
That why you see most grapplers using the ground and pound theory more than what you just describe above.