The Ultimate in Martial Arts

BJJ-2/04 · 09-17-2004, 11:26 AM

Mens Journal Sept. 2003 lists the four best martial arts for surviving any situation as follows:

MuayThai
Brazilian Jujitsu
JKD
Krav Maga

Though I have never trained Muay Thai, I’d have to disagree. It’s my understanding MT doesn’t typically train any Self Defense or Grappling. The others listed I have has some training in each and would agree.

Also, I was reading the thread, “Which arts are the best combination of arts is best” and I was wondering for what? (Any Situation , Self Defense, Sport, UFC/Pride, Street, To Kill?)

My opinion for self defense or surviving any situation is grappling type arts with a high focus on practicing self defense drills. i.e. getting out of a head lock or getting someone off you that’s pinning you to the ground. If I really want to defend myself, I don’t what to fight. For example, if I get attacked in my house or on the street, I want to get myself and my family away from the attacker. I also want to be able to fight long enough for my family to escape.

My opinion of beating the crap out to someone is any striking art which utilizes full contact sparing.

**HuSanYan** · 09-17-2004, 12:20 PM

I would add Japanese JuJutsu to that list, so long as it is trained without over compliant partners

**Thai Bri** · 09-17-2004, 12:55 PM

Heres mine

Running
Hiding
Begging
Playing dead.

bartjam · 09-17-2004, 12:59 PM

Why is something telling me that some big KravMaga federation paid the journal?...
Also: JKD... which one?

**gregimotis** · 09-17-2004, 01:46 PM

Men's Journal suggesting the "FOUR GREATEST MARTIAL ARTS FOR SELF_DEFENSE!" is like 'Wired' magazine giving fashion advice.

Heck the Defend.net forum community alone has been unable to solve this intruiging question for years now - and some people here actually know what they are talking about.

BJJ-2/04 · 09-17-2004, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartjam

Why is something telling me that some big KravMaga federation paid the journal?...
Also: JKD... which one?

I think you’re correct. A Krav Maga instructor from New York named Rhon Mizrachi, I believe helped the magazine with the article. Also, IMO Krav Maga people think their art is similar to JKD with some more progressive training.

Tom Yum · 09-17-2004, 02:31 PM

I just noticed your location is in the belly of the beast.....

how did you get onto Spanky's gut??

**gregimotis** · 09-17-2004, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Yum

I just noticed your location is in the belly of the beast.....

how did you get onto Spanky's gut??

HeHehe.... so many jokes, so little time

Serrada · 09-18-2004, 04:54 PM

Good Post BJJ-2/04, though many Thai schools also teach self defense. Also, my local Krav Maga School does not do any full contact kickboxing or wrestling. They do have some good self defense though. In my opinion full contact training is an absolute must. Anyway, welcome to the forum.

cakegirl · 09-19-2004, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thai Bri

Heres mine

Running
Hiding
Begging
Playing dead.

You forgot speedy fingers for dialing the emergency number.

Ikken Hisatsu · 09-19-2004, 02:47 AM

err if i was a mugger i would be far more afraid of a thai fighter than a JKD or krav maga fighter. as for not doing any self defense- ever been to a thai boxing class?

**HuSanYan** · 09-19-2004, 04:50 AM

you can see how easy it is to beat the muay thai by hopping over the the TKD beats muayThai thread, where mt gets whooped bad

**Thai Bri** · 09-19-2004, 05:15 AM

cakegirl - I have speedy fingers, but don't waste them on the phone

vincechoo · 09-19-2004, 09:07 AM

many people forget that most crims on the loose would mug and attack in groups and often with edged weapons, often under the influence of drugs/alchohol or both. add testosterone, nothing to do, no money and angry at society then you have a potent cocktail for trouble.

i'm with Thai Bri on this one

Tom Yum · 09-19-2004, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thai Bri

Heres mine

Running
Hiding
Begging
Playing dead.

Not a bad idea..lol

09-17-2004, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
BJJ-2/04 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mens Journal lists the four best martial arts for surviving any situation Mens Journal Sept. 2003 lists the four best martial arts for surviving any situation as follows: MuayThai Brazilian Jujitsu JKD Krav Maga Though I have never trained Muay Thai, I’d have to disagree. It’s my understanding MT doesn’t typically train any Self Defense or Grappling. The others listed I have has some training in each and would agree. Also, I was reading the thread, “Which arts are the best combination of arts is best” and I was wondering for what? (Any Situation , Self Defense, Sport, UFC/Pride, Street, To Kill?) My opinion for self defense or surviving any situation is grappling type arts with a high focus on practicing self defense drills. i.e. getting out of a head lock or getting someone off you that’s pinning you to the ground. If I really want to defend myself, I don’t what to fight. For example, if I get attacked in my house or on the street, I want to get myself and my family away from the attacker. I also want to be able to fight long enough for my family to escape. My opinion of beating the crap out to someone is any striking art which utilizes full contact sparing.

09-17-2004, 12:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
bartjam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: italy Posts: 178 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Why is something telling me that some big KravMaga federation paid the journal?... Also: JKD... which one? __________________ "Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Winston Churchill

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gregimotis Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Still residing in the Premiere members booth Posts: 2,011 Groans: 4 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Men's Journal suggesting the "FOUR GREATEST MARTIAL ARTS FOR SELF_DEFENSE!" is like 'Wired' magazine giving fashion advice. Heck the Defend.net forum community alone has been unable to solve this intruiging question for years now - and some people here actually know what they are talking about. __________________ . . I am Tired. Tired. Tired.

09-18-2004, 04:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Serrada Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good Post BJJ-2/04, though many Thai schools also teach self defense. Also, my local Krav Maga School does not do any full contact kickboxing or wrestling. They do have some good self defense though. In my opinion full contact training is an absolute must. Anyway, welcome to the forum. __________________ “There is no best style. Dedication to ones art will achieve the result one desires.” http://www.boudicca.de/k2.htm

09-19-2004, 02:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ikken Hisatsu Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 127 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	err if i was a mugger i would be far more afraid of a thai fighter than a JKD or krav maga fighter. as for not doing any self defense- ever been to a thai boxing class? __________________ If there is no grand plan; if there is no big picture; if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.

09-17-2004, 12:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
HuSanYan Premiere Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 672 Groans: 31 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	I would add Japanese JuJutsu to that list, so long as it is trained without over compliant partners

09-17-2004, 12:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Heres mine Running Hiding Begging Playing dead.

09-17-2004, 02:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	I just noticed your location is in the belly of the beast..... how did you get onto Spanky's gut??

09-19-2004, 04:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
HuSanYan Premiere Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 672 Groans: 31 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	you can see how easy it is to beat the muay thai by hopping over the the TKD beats muayThai thread, where mt gets whooped bad

09-19-2004, 05:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	cakegirl - I have speedy fingers, but don't waste them on the phone

09-19-2004, 09:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
vincechoo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 44 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	many people forget that most crims on the loose would mug and attack in groups and often with edged weapons, often under the influence of drugs/alchohol or both. add testosterone, nothing to do, no money and angry at society then you have a potent cocktail for trouble. i'm with Thai Bri on this one

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