The Ultimate in Martial Arts

duchman · 12-15-2000, 02:00 PM

Gibert yvel is the best kicker and knee'er in mma. I think gibert yvel could get a k.o on vovchancin!!!

EJ · 12-15-2000, 02:03 PM

IMO, Igor would knock his head off. And if Yvel started to maul Igor's thighs, Igor would show him the Ukrainian G & P.

I can't believe Enson is out of the hospital already... and it has been several months since he fought Igor.

Pedro Rizzo is the best MMA striker IMO.

duchman · 12-15-2000, 02:10 PM

Ej, Dont make me heelhook you!

I think vovchancin is a great fighter(my hero) but if he keeps his hands down like against enson he is dead meat

YeLLa-TiGeR · 12-15-2000, 02:13 PM

Silva will kick any of their asses!

Seriously though, if Yvel learns to sprawl and defend against being taken down better, he will be a tough opponent for Vovchanchin.

Domingo · 12-15-2000, 03:23 PM

The best striker in MMA? I don't think there is just one guy. There are several guys that have a strong element or two, but I have yet to see a single guy who had the total package.
Yvel has good kicks, but they're not as fast as some - and he paid for it against Belfort.
Vovchanchin has amazing power in his punches, but he doesn't kick much ever since he put on weight a few years ago.
Guy Mezger has great accuracy and technique, but has no power.
Vitor has good power and speed to his punches, but he's one dimensional with his strikes, and will have trouble with lateral movement and clinching.
Pedro Rizzo has amazing power in his kicks, but like Yvel he telegraphs them too much. He also tends to make his high attempts obvious.
Marco Ruas has fast, hard to counter kicks and punches - but lacks finishing power.
Vanderlei Silva has the best knees in the biz, and a good right hand. I haven't seen many weaknesses from him, but Vitor did light him up when he made his low kick attempt obvious. Since then he's done well, though.
Mo Smith has a good combination of punching and kicking power, but is easily taken down and seems to lack the killer instinct he had back in the EFC days.
Bas Rutten is probably the best OVERALL striker in the biz, BUT seems to be the easiest to take down due to how heavily he commits to each shot. Lets see how he does at 199 if he plans on fighting anytime soon.

Bau13 · 12-15-2000, 06:45 PM

Sorry...I dont think Yvel has much of a chance against Vov..

12-15-2000, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
EJ Master Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Southern California!!!!!!!! Posts: 2,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	IMO, Igor would knock his head off. And if Yvel started to maul Igor's thighs, Igor would show him the Ukrainian G & P. I can't believe Enson is out of the hospital already... and it has been several months since he fought Igor. Pedro Rizzo is the best MMA striker IMO. __________________ -EJ "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentation of the women!" - Conan The Barbarian

12-15-2000, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Silva will kick any of their asses! Seriously though, if Yvel learns to sprawl and defend against being taken down better, he will be a tough opponent for Vovchanchin. __________________ "Nemo me impune lacssit"

12-15-2000, 03:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Domingo Advanced Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tuscaloosa, Al. USA Posts: 637 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The best striker in MMA? I don't think there is just one guy. There are several guys that have a strong element or two, but I have yet to see a single guy who had the total package. Yvel has good kicks, but they're not as fast as some - and he paid for it against Belfort. Vovchanchin has amazing power in his punches, but he doesn't kick much ever since he put on weight a few years ago. Guy Mezger has great accuracy and technique, but has no power. Vitor has good power and speed to his punches, but he's one dimensional with his strikes, and will have trouble with lateral movement and clinching. Pedro Rizzo has amazing power in his kicks, but like Yvel he telegraphs them too much. He also tends to make his high attempts obvious. Marco Ruas has fast, hard to counter kicks and punches - but lacks finishing power. Vanderlei Silva has the best knees in the biz, and a good right hand. I haven't seen many weaknesses from him, but Vitor did light him up when he made his low kick attempt obvious. Since then he's done well, though. Mo Smith has a good combination of punching and kicking power, but is easily taken down and seems to lack the killer instinct he had back in the EFC days. Bas Rutten is probably the best OVERALL striker in the biz, BUT seems to be the easiest to take down due to how heavily he commits to each shot. Lets see how he does at 199 if he plans on fighting anytime soon. __________________ -- Chris "Domingo X" Allen Check out my homepage at http://personal.bhm.bellsouth.net/~domingox ===================================================== "To be the man, you gotta beat the man, WOOOOOO!" -- Ric Flair "Dare to be stupid" -- Weird Al Yankovic "I eat more chicken than any man ever seen" -- Jim Morrison "I had to be carried out" -- Miki Berenyi "Now you're messin' with a son of a bitch!" -- Nazareth "Break out with the Faygo" -- Violent J "We're on a mission from God" -- Elwood Blues =====================================================

12-15-2000, 06:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bau13 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 390 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry...I dont think Yvel has much of a chance against Vov.. __________________ Everything happens for a reason...

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12-15-2000, 02:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
duchman Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: holland Posts: 1,034 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gibert yvel is the best kicker and knee'er in mma. I think gibert yvel could get a k.o on vovchancin!!!

12-15-2000, 02:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
duchman Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: holland Posts: 1,034 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ej, Dont make me heelhook you! I think vovchancin is a great fighter(my hero) but if he keeps his hands down like against enson he is dead meat

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