Debating between BJJ and Krav Maga

[musclemilk]

I am a full time student. THere are two schools around here that give BJJ and Krav Maga in the other school.


I have friends taht take BJJ, but i am curious to know how you guys like the KRav Maga and how the workouts are composed cause i know that kick boxing and regular boxing are composed of lots and lots of cardio.



Suggestions please.


Thanks a lot

[bvermillion]

Go to both of them and see what you like. I can already tell you that from this forum you will get reccommended to BJJ by most here.

[koto_ryu]

Originally Posted by musclemilk

I am a full time student. THere are two schools around here that give BJJ and Krav Maga in the other school.


I have friends taht take BJJ, but i am curious to know how you guys like the KRav Maga and how the workouts are composed cause i know that kick boxing and regular boxing are composed of lots and lots of cardio.



Suggestions please.


Thanks a lot

BJJ is for sport, KM is for reality self-defense and pretty effective. It's basically a messy form of Muay Thai with a lot of dirty tactics, weapons disarms, and some grappling.

[Ahoym8e]

BJJ all the way

[Aaron Little]

You should check out both places. One thing to make sure of is that the KM school actually spars. I taught a workshop at one once and discovered that everything they do is against a willing partner. That could have just been that school though.

[jaychiu]

KM varies from place to place due to it's sudden popularity. There are some good KM schools that spar against resisting opponents and teach valid techniques and some that are people who attend a KM seminar and get "certified" to teach KM which, unfortunately, isn't really KM at all.

I suggest checking out both KM and BJJ and seeing which one you like more.

[koto_ryu]

Originally Posted by Ahoym8e

BJJ all the way

But if he's looking for street self-defense BJJ is one of the worst ways to go. Anything thats main strength is in grappling on the ground is very bad for the street. It's good to have some knowledge of groundfighting, just so you can fight the guy off and get up cause the ground is the last place you want to be in a streetfight.

[DJColdfusion]

Originally Posted by koto_ryu

But if he's looking for street self-defense BJJ is one of the worst ways to go. Anything thats main strength is in grappling on the ground is very bad for the street. It's good to have some knowledge of groundfighting, just so you can fight the guy off and get up cause the ground is the last place you want to be in a streetfight.

I have practiced, trained, in the martial arts for 20 years now. I have years of experience in TKD, Hap Ki Do, Shaolin Kempo, Gojo Ryu JuJutsu, Yamabushi Kempo, American Kenpo, Muay Thai, Kali, BJJ, and JKD. I have taught classes in all of the above except Gojo Ryu Jujutsu, including a selfdefense course at Utah State University. Muay Thai, Kali, BJJ, and JKD have become the core of what I do over the last 6 years.

And I always hear this diatribe about the relative worthlessness of BJJ on the street, but in the YEARS that I've practiced BJJ I have seen 2 of my fellow students show up with bumps and bruises from an altercation they were in outside of class. In each case the students were attacked and in each case they escaped the situation without going to the ground.

BJJ has plenty to offer for selfdefense. And while much of BJJ practice is spent on the ground there is no rule in BJJ that says you have to go there. Applying BJJ techniques while standing requires you to examine the principle that supports the technique (why it works, not just how) and then reapply the principle in a new environment. And believe it or not, many BJJ schools do work from the feet . . . atleast to start. The wealth of BJJ is in the way you practice, against someone who is trying to whoop you.

[EmptyneSs]

i wouldnt recomend bjj for self defense.

[koto_ryu]

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

BJJ has plenty to offer for selfdefense. And while much of BJJ practice is spent on the ground there is no rule in BJJ that says you have to go there. Applying BJJ techniques while standing requires you to examine the principle that supports the technique (why it works, not just how) and then reapply the principle in a new environment. And believe it or not, many BJJ schools do work from the feet . . . atleast to start. The wealth of BJJ is in the way you practice, against someone who is trying to whoop you.

BJJ = Blow Job Jitsu. Drop to your knees and suck Bubba off so he doesn't rape your ass in the jail cell. Sounds like a true self-defense tactic to me.

[Strepto]

Originally Posted by koto_ryu

BJJ = Blow Job Jitsu. Drop to your knees and suck Bubba off so he doesn't rape your ass in the jail cell. Sounds like a true self-defense tactic to me.

Nice!

[DJColdfusion]

Originally Posted by koto_ryu

Sounds like a true self-defense tactic to me.

I give it a 2 out of 10 on the Troll meter.

[koto_ryu]

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

I give it a 2 out of 10 on the Troll meter.

I was hoping for more than 2

[tekshow]

check out both schools, imho I think BJJ can be used for self defense.


you don't have to lay on your back to do the rear naked choke, there's a lot of submissions that could be used in standup. and in fact, if you are fighting one person, BJJ is going to be optimal because it is perfect for eliminating one individual in the quickest amount of time.


Our school used to be near this Krav Maga school, and there's one by my house that i've checked out. i've found the practitioners generally have good power in their attacks, but since its a military art i find it typically static.

one guy could show me how his front kick could send the bag to the ceiling. i got to be honest with you that front kick hurt like a mother when it was stuffed in your stomach, but after that he didn't have any follow up. eventually i got used to the explosive power and would just go with it, the guy would throw his mighty front kick and i would drag him straight forward with all that force and go to the ground.

i don't think Krav Maga suits my personal tastes, but other people like it. it sort of reminds me of traditional Karate with a more modern striking set.


good luck in your choice, the only way you'll ever "know" is if you try both. maybe the BJJ sucks out there because the teacher that is available isn't that good, or vice versa, you just gotta give it a test run.


peace,
joe

[Ronson]

All things being equal, I'd take a BJJ'er over a Krav Maga stylist 9 times outta 10 in the street, in the ring, or in the octagaon.

BJJ is huge for all the right reasons - it actually works against resisting opponents and it blends well with other striking and grappling arts.

Krav Maga got popular because J-Lo and other Hollywood-types took it up. I'm not saying it's useless, just that the instruction is not consistent.

"Dirty" techs. or vital point attacks work provided that they're applied from a strong position. Try doing that on a someone who has the mount or knee-on-belly on you and you'll find that the beating you recieve will have just increased two-fold - instead of a polite blood-choke, you'll wake up with two broken arms and eating through a straw.