The Best Self Defense System to study ?

[holyman]

After researching all systems I have rated the best and worst systems to study for street defense

Best systems

1. Thai Boxing/Mai Tai
2. Kyoshuana Karate
3. Modern Arnis and Kali

Worst systems

1. BJJ
2. Wrestling
3. kungfu
4 judo
5. aikido
6. Atemi - pressure point dimak stuff

As you can see thai boxing and hard style karate rate as no.1 because they dont waste time learning forms or wearing pyjamas and waving your hands in teh air like some kungfu jerk.

Judo is stupid because u dotn wanna wrestle with someone in the street

the worst systems are good for sport.

atemi is no good because these days people wear jumpers and leather jackets so u cant do pressure point stuff on a person.

[CKD]

Originally Posted by holyman

After researching all systems I have rated the best and worst systems to study for street defense

Best systems

1. Thai Boxing/Mai Tai
2. Kyoshuana Karate
3. Modern Arnis and Kali

Worst systems

1. BJJ
2. Wrestling
3. kungfu
4 judo
5. aikido
6. Atemi - pressure point dimak stuff

As you can see thai boxing and hard style karate rate as no.1 because they dont waste time learning forms or wearing pyjamas and waving your hands in teh air like some kungfu jerk.

Judo is stupid because u dotn wanna wrestle with someone in the street

the worst systems are good for sport.

atemi is no good because these days people wear jumpers and leather jackets so u cant do pressure point stuff on a person.

Uhhh.... Kyoushinkai people do wear pagamas and learn forms A good judo hip toss knock most people out on concrete and there are other very solid self defense systems out there that I would rate above muay thai.

[koto_ryu]

Originally Posted by holyman

As you can see thai boxing and hard style karate rate as no.1 because they dont waste time learning forms or wearing pyjamas and waving your hands in teh air like some kungfu jerk.

LOL you're still gonna do that in the hardest styles of karate. When I was taking Meibukan Goju-Ryu in Okinawa and later in California, our classes were two hours long and the first hour was nothing but body conditioning, followed by 30 minutes of katas, followed by 30 minutes of practical applications for street fights.

Judo is stupid because u dotn wanna wrestle with someone in the street

Judo is very good as already said. Not only while you randori quite often and get in good shape, but a good hip toss or shoulder throw and the average person won't be getting up again. Combine it with boxing or another good striking art and you'll have an excellent combination for streetfighting.

the worst systems are good for sport.

So why do you have Muay Thai up there?

atemi is no good because these days people wear jumpers and leather jackets so u cant do pressure point stuff on a person.

Again, not very true at all. Sure if they have that leather jacket zipped up to their neck some of the points will be covered up, but strikes can still hurt them. There's many places that still wont be protected or you can get to if you try that you can strike on a good point: outside of the thigh, collarbone, outside and inside of the elbow, temples, underneath the nose, etc.

[doubleouch]

Holyman,
Looking at info on the net is not research! I don't think you can validate your claims with any actual experience. Until you can everything you say is pure speculation.

[NYCMonkey]

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Hmmm....ok. Have a lunatic on PCP go postal on you with a knife and THEN tell me which is the best system for you.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by holyman

After researching all systems I have rated the best and worst systems to study for street defense.

Thank goodness we can have the benefit of your wisdom!

[IPON]

Hmmmmmm....Atemi Waza.........hmmmmm useless I see your point

Pressure point training useless becuase everybody in the world has goose down coats inside and outside 365days of the year.

Dude if you have nothing better to do go to sleep and dream about all the girls who laff at you in the clubs

[Shoot]

Pick one or more from each category:

1. Grappling: BJJ, Judo, Submission wrestling, Sambo, other practical grappling systems

2. Striking: Boxing, Thai Boxing, Kick boxing, Practical karate styles, other practical striking systems.

3. Strength training: weightlifting, bodyweight lifting exercises, other means of resistance training.

4. Stamina training: running, swimming, biking, other cardiovascular exercises

5. Flexibility training: yoga, stretching, other systems.

6. Mind training: Study: Read, attend seminars, watch instructional tapes, watch MMA tournaments, think and analyze, meditate--learn what combat looks like. Learn to address that reality. Learn the ranges. Develop your intincts and then learn to trust them. Evolve from learning rehearsed or pre-arranged techniques and become instinctive and improvisational. Evolve to think of combat in terms of principles at play (there are just a few and they are really just subsets of one principle) and get away from "wazas" or techniques. It's ok to learn "techniques" at first, you can frantically take notes and copy books and your instructor etc...but there reallly is no such thing as techniques seperate from each other--there are only applied principles. Learn the principles and you've learned any and all techniques/applications that flow from them. Also, evolve to think of combat in terms of probabilities--probabilities of how things really work eg. what's the probability that a high kick is going to "work?" what's the probability that the "spider guard" is going to work on someone in a t-shirt who wants to kill you? etc....

Find a place to train. You can join a club. You can just meet a friend or friends regularly and study and train together. Join a school or gym. It's hard to do it alone.

Spar in a safe and controlled environment with people you trust. Learn what you do when in combat--learn to control your emotions, learn what to do with your fear--fear of losing, fear of injury, fear of humiliation. It is important to train in a safe and ego-free environment to stay healthy and free of injuries. Odds are you'll never have to defend yourself on the street. Don't beat yourself up trying to learn how not to get beat up; know what I mean? You may find a system that blends all this for you and gets you way ahead. There are self defense schools out there.

Then, tie it all together into your own personal system and style that works for you--your build, your center of gravity, your stengths and weaknesses, your sensitivities, limitations, disabilities, injuries, morals etc....

The worst system: anything that neglects reality. Reality of the ground, clinch, sucker punch, fear, size, etc....

[Useless]

I would say Krav Maga (or a license to carry a gun) would be one of the most efficient ones and Wrestling would be one of the crappiest ones (except if you were carrying a fake chair around with you).

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by Useless

I would say Krav Maga (or a license to carry a gun) would be one of the most efficient ones and Wrestling would be one of the crappiest ones (except if you were carrying a fake chair around with you).

Way to live up to your name.

[aseepish]

Originally Posted by holyman

Best systems

1. Thai Boxing/Mai Tai

I prefer the martini system myself.

[Patterson]

I think the bulk of street self-defense training should be the same as MMA training. Training in takedowns, standup striking and groundfighting allows you the ability to decide where the fight will take place, and the flexibility to fight effectively if denied that choice.

The reality of someone having a gun or knife is that you have to try to run away, and you will not fare well against multiple-opponents unless you are a world class striker.

The advantages of MMA training over specialized street training is that you can train everything full steam, unlike eye gouging, biting, etc.

[mmafighter_okc]

You must be kidding!! Wrestling and BJJ listed as the worst? You have obviously never fought, and I mean truly fought a wrestler or a true BJJ practitioner!! As someone stated earlier reading on the internet is not truly testing a system. But, I guess we are all entitled to our opinion, as silly as it is!!!

[Patterson]

This guy is trolling anyway. I don't like this kind of troll, it offers nothing in the way of entertainment. Very uncreative. But there are probably others reading this thread that would like the advice he is pretending to ask for.

[cakegirl]

Originally Posted by holyman

1. Thai Boxing/Mai Tai

Dude, mai tai is a type of drink.