another style vs style thread - Page 2

Tom Yum · 01-15-2005, 10:15 PM

I am newbies to both styles, but from my limited experience it seems like the wrestling/judo comparison is just like the boxing/muay thai comparison.

**HtTKar** · 01-16-2005, 06:20 AM

I study Judo, I haven't taken wrestling since High-school though I watch college wrestling on TV. My opinions are biased. What does wrestling have that Judo does not? Wrestling appears to me to be very much about brute strength, whereas Judo is about NOT Having to use brute strength and allowing technique to win. Judo has pins, matholds, chokes, strangles, joint locks, grappling and throws. If a fight were to go to the end against two equal contestants, I would pick Judo. I just can't see anything in College tournament wrestling not found in Judo.

Tom Yum · 01-16-2005, 08:26 AM

MA vs. Yellow Bamboo!!!

http://bamboovideo.com/attack.htm

ooohhh, so viscious

CKD · 01-16-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HtTKar

I study Judo, I haven't taken wrestling since High-school though I watch college wrestling on TV. My opinions are biased. What does wrestling have that Judo does not? Wrestling appears to me to be very much about brute strength, whereas Judo is about NOT Having to use brute strength and allowing technique to win. Judo has pins, matholds, chokes, strangles, joint locks, grappling and throws. If a fight were to go to the end against two equal contestants, I would pick Judo. I just can't see anything in College tournament wrestling not found in Judo.

If you believe wrestling is basically brute strength then you obviously do not know a lot about it. Wrestling has a few takedwons not found in judo or that are uncommon in judo while judo has more subs than wrestling.

**HtTKar** · 01-16-2005, 07:41 PM

well, I said I was biased, but at least I chose a side.
Judo has 67 throwing techniques and 22 striking techniques which include punches and kicks. There are many different types of takedowns, submissions, pins, locks, etc. Personally I think that wrestling would be at the disadvantage as they dont teach strangles, chokes, or striking. What exactly is there in wresting that is not found in Judo? Just because something is "uncommon" doesnt mean that it isn't there.

Tant01 · 01-16-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HtTKar

.....
.... What exactly is there in wresting that is not found in Judo?

Flying leg drop (off the top rope)

**HtTKar** · 01-16-2005, 07:59 PM

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Flying leg drop (off the top rope)

got me there. Never seen a judoka hit someone over the head with a chair either, or bring a python into the ring either

CKD · 01-16-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HtTKar

well, I said I was biased, but at least I chose a side.
Judo has 67 throwing techniques and 22 striking techniques which include punches and kicks. There are many different types of takedowns, submissions, pins, locks, etc. Personally I think that wrestling would be at the disadvantage as they dont teach strangles, chokes, or striking. What exactly is there in wresting that is not found in Judo? Just because something is "uncommon" doesnt mean that it isn't there.

Some single leg variations I learned in wrestling were not taught in any judo classes I took and the high crotch was not very common. Judo does have an advantage over wrestling with its submssions. The wrestler could win if he got a takedown and landed in a dominant position from where he could flail away. The two arts are similar in the way they both use techniques to offbalance the opponent.

jubaji · 01-17-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EmptyneSs

dude, why dont u just suck my fucking dick. theres always some douchebag who posts with a shitty attitude trying to make himself look like he's better than others. eat my ass u condescending faggot.

LOL

You really shouldn't post during that 'special time' of the month, miss. Makes you all emotional.

LOL

jubaji · 01-17-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HtTKar

Wrestling appears to me to be very much about brute strength, .

Moron.

jubaji · 01-17-2005, 01:03 PM

Here's something to chew on:

Jimmy Pedro, who has represented the US so admirably in many international Judo competitions, was not exactly a world-beater when he wrestled at Brown.

Tom Yum · 01-17-2005, 01:07 PM

Jubs, your expertise is required here...

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...031#post148031

Discussion starts off about the film Gangs of New York and gets into folkstyle/catch wrestling and old-school boxing.

jubaji · 01-17-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Yum

Jubs, your expertise is required here...

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...031#post148031

Discussion starts off about the film Gangs of New York and gets into folkstyle/catch wrestling and old-school boxing.

Up, up, and awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

...eh, on second thought never mind. Its a movie thread.

01-16-2005, 06:20 AM	#17 (permalink)
HtTKar Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Outer limits Posts: 1,089	I study Judo, I haven't taken wrestling since High-school though I watch college wrestling on TV. My opinions are biased. What does wrestling have that Judo does not? Wrestling appears to me to be very much about brute strength, whereas Judo is about NOT Having to use brute strength and allowing technique to win. Judo has pins, matholds, chokes, strangles, joint locks, grappling and throws. If a fight were to go to the end against two equal contestants, I would pick Judo. I just can't see anything in College tournament wrestling not found in Judo. __________________ "The harder you train, the harder it is to surrender" (Vince Lombardi)

01-16-2005, 08:26 AM	#18 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,218	style vs style! MA vs. Yellow Bamboo!!! http://bamboovideo.com/attack.htm ooohhh, so viscious

01-16-2005, 07:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
HtTKar Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Outer limits Posts: 1,089	well, I said I was biased, but at least I chose a side. Judo has 67 throwing techniques and 22 striking techniques which include punches and kicks. There are many different types of takedowns, submissions, pins, locks, etc. Personally I think that wrestling would be at the disadvantage as they dont teach strangles, chokes, or striking. What exactly is there in wresting that is not found in Judo? Just because something is "uncommon" doesnt mean that it isn't there. __________________ "The harder you train, the harder it is to surrender" (Vince Lombardi)

01-17-2005, 01:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,523	Here's something to chew on: Jimmy Pedro, who has represented the US so admirably in many international Judo competitions, was not exactly a world-beater when he wrestled at Brown. __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

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01-15-2005, 10:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,218	I am newbies to both styles, but from my limited experience it seems like the wrestling/judo comparison is just like the boxing/muay thai comparison.

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Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,218	Jubs, your expertise is required here... http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...031#post148031 Discussion starts off about the film Gangs of New York and gets into folkstyle/catch wrestling and old-school boxing.

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