Groin grab not working

[Tom Yum]

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/285/

Appears the adrenal dump masks the pain of the groin grab. Something to consider for dirty moves.

[IPON]

Hey Tom,

It didn't look like he got a really good grab

[Garland]

I couldn't see the video because my computer uses different software, but out of some personal experience, there is always the consideration that there may not be MUCH to grab.

[JaredExtreme]

Well... if it's a life or death situation.... which it doesn't look like this was.... I think one will have much better results STRIKING to the groin then trying to grope around for testicles.

[koto_ryu]

Originally Posted by JaredExtreme

Well... if it's a life or death situation.... which it doesn't look like this was.... I think one will have much better results STRIKING to the groin then trying to grope around for testicles.

Striking is nowhere near as painful and a grab and twist. There was once a bout between two knights in feudal England where they broke each others' lances off their shields and incapacitated their horses, so they ended up in a wrestling match and the victor won by castrating his opponent with his bare hands. Seems a bit more effective than just a punch to the nuts

[EmptyneSs]

grabbing simply isnt enough. u gotta not only grab, but then u gotta squeeze, pull, tear, twist, and crush whatever u have grabbed on to.

[Ronson]

EmptyneSs - " grabbing simply isnt enough. u gotta not only grab, but then u gotta squeeze, pull, tear, twist, and crush whatever u have grabbed on to."

Are we talking about groin grabs for SD or when inexperienced chicks try to give hand-jobs!

All is fair in SD situations, however they might not be the neutralizing tech. that every Women's SD teaches. It could work or it might not for many reasons either way. Also be mindful that in going for the twig and berries that you're not leaving yourself vulnerable (I once had a former Instructor demo going for the nuts while I had full mount - elbows to the face anyone?). I'd say the "Bobby Hill" method is a viable option - "Let go of my purse!" (and follow through with kick)

[gregimotis]

I could be wrong, but it looked like he had more of a 'front of the pants' grab than anything. I think the 'ball grab' would be a bit lower toward the crotch. Hard to tell though, not being either the grabber or grabbee .


If I was to Sunday morning quarterback, I'd suggest that the shirt wearing guy might have been better off sticking with his knees idea (though I suppose he didn't know how to put them in very well).


Always educational to see these clips though, imho. Thanks

[HtTKar]

The nut-grab might have worked alright if he wasn't bit in the face. Something about being bit in the face really loosens up the grip. The man had to defend himself

Something to consider for dirty moves.

Yes
When someone does a dirty move, you have to have a better one up your sleeve.

[Superdude]

I read in a book about ninjas that some ninjas have the ability to pull their testicles into their bodies during combat.

[Garland]

anybody with a high pain tolerance can push their testicles up and in, and I guess hold them up there via clenching the lower abdominals. C'mon...try it. Not that it would actually help you in a fight...so much as in trying to pass yourself off as a chick.

As for crushing power...grab a pair of walnuts and try cracking them with your barehand...easy.

[HtTKar]

anybody with a high pain tolerance can push their testicles up and in, and I guess hold them up there via clenching the lower abdominals. C'mon...try it. Not that it would actually help you in a fight...so much as in trying to pass yourself off as a chick.

As for crushing power...grab a pair of walnuts and try cracking them with your barehand...easy.

I read these wrong and mixed them up.
now I'm really hurting

just kidding.

[kengar]

Good vid, thanks for posting it. 1st, that in no way was any type of situation that could be called 'self defense'. That's out of the way. The grab really wasn't that good, but the grabber got the reaction that allows for putting your strikes into the "new" openings. The ideal grab would start with the hand slapping into the balls, grabbing, squeezing and pulling.

So he wants to attack the guys groin, but cries about being bitten. Call me old fashioned or anything else, but I'll risk infection or maiming just leave my boys alone.

[bodhisattva]

"I'd say the "Bobby Hill" method is a viable option - "Let go of my purse!" (and follow through with kick)"

Oh dear god. That was the funniest episode. "Ah don't know you!" "Let go of my purse!" etc. Oh crap. I loved that.

The problem is this. Police reports have, in many many cases, shown that in a VOLATILE, ANGRY, DRAMATIC, EMOTIONAL situation, a crack to the nuts won't stop a DETERMINED assailant.

Here is a great example, this is Paul Sharp, Chicago LEO, Straight Blast Gym Illinois coach/owner..
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"Just to add on to James point. This past weekend I arrested one half of a domestic battery. As I am taking him into the booking area to turn him over to the jailers he doubles over, falls to his knees and starts bellowing and puking. I asked him what his problem is and he says his stomach hurts. The jailer calls for a rescue and he is taken to the emergency room. The doc asks what happened, I tell him I have no idea, he was choking the life out of his brother when I showed up, all I did was spray him. Doc checks his stomach, looks around and than says his testicles have ascended..., Later his cousin said that during the fight he had hit him in the nads approximately 30-40 times as hard as he could while he was choking him. Didn't stop him from choking him unconscious.... (snip) ....Somebody should have told those guy's when you get hit in a pressure point you go down no questions asked..."
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This is taken from Paul's personal experience as a cop, things he saw with his own two eyes. The full article is here, and is VERY good reading. I recommend it.

http://www.straightblastgym.com/street01.htm

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