Tradition vs New Age Combat

Jakuzo · 01-22-2005, 04:54 PM

Do u think modern styles are better than ancient styles or the other way around?

-Tell me what u think-

**Hardball** · 01-22-2005, 04:57 PM

It's what you make it and how you apply it. It all depends on your body type and how you are built. If you don't practice hard you wont get good. Instructor or no instrutor you must practice hard. Practicing every day is what makes you good. Practicing several times a day is what makes you great.

Jakuzo · 01-22-2005, 05:00 PM

thanx for the reply hardball

**Hardball** · 01-22-2005, 05:03 PM

You're welcome. Try and focus on being well rounded as a martial artist. ie. kicks, punches, takedowns, throws, groundwork, locks, breaks...........................................

Superdude · 01-22-2005, 06:19 PM

LOL several times a day? Some of us actually have lives and can't practice that much. I don't think someone who practices several times a day is necessarily better than someone who practices once a week. In fact, if you need to practice that much to be good, that's pretty pathetic.

The old ancient styles (especially the Japanese/Chinese/Korean) are not as good as some of the more modern ones because they have a lot of tradition, which might seem cool but doesn't really have any practical use.

sirmattu · 01-22-2005, 06:27 PM

if they didnt have any practical uses then why are they still around?

Superdude · 01-22-2005, 06:32 PM

I didn't mean the entire style doesn't have any practical use, but rather that there are some components in most of those styles which do not add anything of value to the style to make it more deadly or efficient.

Jakuzo · 01-22-2005, 08:04 PM

You all make good points. If u don't train hard u won't be any stronger. Also the old styles are different because theyre out dated, but are still somewhat effictive. theyre not as good as newer styles because people fight different now a'days.

fool with fist · 01-22-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdude

LOL several times a day? Some of us actually have lives and can't practice that much. I don't think someone who practices several times a day is necessarily better than someone who practices once a week. In fact, if you need to practice that much to be good, that's pretty pathetic.

pretty pathetic? id like to see a kid with the same build as you that practices more than once a day and you get in a fight, you'd get your ass handed to you know doubt

**Hardball** · 01-22-2005, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fool with fist

pretty pathetic? id like to see a kid with the same build as you that practices more than once a day and you get in a fight, you'd get your ass handed to you know doubt

Thank you. I wasn't going to repsond.

**HtTKar** · 01-22-2005, 11:53 PM

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LOL several times a day? Some of us actually have lives and can't practice that much. I don't think someone who practices several times a day is necessarily better than someone who practices once a week. In fact, if you need to practice that much to be good, that's pretty pathetic.

Some of us have lives and have prioritized. Instead of sitting around watching TV or playing on the computer, we actually train. Aquired skill is gained by hard work, and time. If you are only training one hour per week, thats only 52hrs a year. Meanwhile someone else can train 56hrs a week while still working 40hrs, and sleeping 40hrs. Add this up over the period of a year, who do you think is going to be better? The martial artist or the couch potato?

Superdude · 01-23-2005, 09:27 AM

But that's just it, I would never get into a fight with someone who trains that much in the first place.

I could see you practicing that much if you are a professional fighter, but what about those of us who only practice so that we can defend ourselves from random street thugs or whatever? We shouldn't have to give up 50 hours a week just to be decent fighters.

Which brings us back to the original topic of this thread... The traditional ancient martial arts are of less practical use on the street against some random thug, than newer modern styles.

fool with fist · 01-23-2005, 02:00 PM

by "newer modern styles" do you mean pack a desert eagle everywhere you go?

**Hardball** · 01-23-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fool with fist

by "newer modern styles" do you mean pack a desert eagle everywhere you go?

Yea, what do you mean by newer modern styles? What are you talking about?

Jakuzo · 01-23-2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardball

Yea, what do you mean by newer modern styles? What are you talking about?

I'm talking like jeet kune do. newer styles like that

01-22-2005, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jakuzo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 22	Tradition vs New Age Combat Do u think modern styles are better than ancient styles or the other way around? -Tell me what u think-

01-22-2005, 04:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,284	It's what you make it and how you apply it. It all depends on your body type and how you are built. If you don't practice hard you wont get good. Instructor or no instrutor you must practice hard. Practicing every day is what makes you good. Practicing several times a day is what makes you great. __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Mike Brewers 2008 Sit up challenge 40,000/100,000 running balance.(Crunches) Kicks 6,300/100,000

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Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,284	You're welcome. Try and focus on being well rounded as a martial artist. ie. kicks, punches, takedowns, throws, groundwork, locks, breaks........................................... __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Mike Brewers 2008 Sit up challenge 40,000/100,000 running balance.(Crunches) Kicks 6,300/100,000

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01-22-2005, 05:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jakuzo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 22	thanx for the reply hardball

01-22-2005, 06:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Superdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 8	LOL several times a day? Some of us actually have lives and can't practice that much. I don't think someone who practices several times a day is necessarily better than someone who practices once a week. In fact, if you need to practice that much to be good, that's pretty pathetic. The old ancient styles (especially the Japanese/Chinese/Korean) are not as good as some of the more modern ones because they have a lot of tradition, which might seem cool but doesn't really have any practical use.

01-22-2005, 06:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
sirmattu Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 194	if they didnt have any practical uses then why are they still around?

01-22-2005, 06:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Superdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 8	I didn't mean the entire style doesn't have any practical use, but rather that there are some components in most of those styles which do not add anything of value to the style to make it more deadly or efficient.

01-22-2005, 08:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jakuzo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 22	You all make good points. If u don't train hard u won't be any stronger. Also the old styles are different because theyre out dated, but are still somewhat effictive. theyre not as good as newer styles because people fight different now a'days.

01-23-2005, 09:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
Superdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 8	But that's just it, I would never get into a fight with someone who trains that much in the first place. I could see you practicing that much if you are a professional fighter, but what about those of us who only practice so that we can defend ourselves from random street thugs or whatever? We shouldn't have to give up 50 hours a week just to be decent fighters. Which brings us back to the original topic of this thread... The traditional ancient martial arts are of less practical use on the street against some random thug, than newer modern styles.

01-23-2005, 02:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
fool with fist Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 24	by "newer modern styles" do you mean pack a desert eagle everywhere you go?

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