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What sort of rules?
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One vote for Kyokusin. Unless it's the SBG type of JKD.
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Straight Blast Gym Do you Google?
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Here, maybe this will help... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ight+Blast+Gym You could say that SBG is one of the things that JKD became. Is it still JKD? You decide...
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kyokushinai dont punch to the head in tournament combat and their self defense moves are out dated . karate will always lose to systems like jeet kune do and pfs. ive trained in kyokushin and quickly picked it apart. things like defense against a wrist grab !! ive never seen a grown man walk up to another man and grab his wrist in an altercation. i was a bouncer in a 1200 person capacity night club and witnessed literally hundreds of fights. this doesnt happen. usually a right haymaker or straight right. ive seen martial artists(mostly tae kwon do and karate) get their ass handed to them by competent street fighters. another thing im noticing is all the rage about grappling. well its good in sport use but in a street fight it would be a huge mistake to go to the ground at all. the guy you have in a choke hold on the ground probably has a friend you didnt see who is now gonna boot f@#c your head into the concrete. stay off the ground!!!! grappling is only useful in sport combat.
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You better let Paul Vunak and Danny Inosanto know that about how bad all that ground fighting is.
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dont get me wrong. grappling is not bad but in a street situation (where most fights happen in and outside of bars) i think its a good practise to maintain an upright fighting stance at all times . especially in crowds this way you are much better able to defend yourself against possible multiple attackers. if the fight becomes a wrestle then trapping is the way to go. elbows, knees ,biting and gouging all work well. kyokushin doesnt teach combat like that. SBG JKD and PFS does. i think vunak is just beginning to shine the light on real world combat. primal offence . simple and direct. eastern martial arts on their own are fading in terms of validity in real world combat. most MA are realizing you need combinations of east and west to be more effective . i love traditional kyokushin, by far the most brutal of all karates . but not as effective as JKD(SBG) or PFS.
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