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Old 12-26-2000, 08:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sure the judoka have a name for this, do the Brazilians have a name for it as well?

From triple threat position (him on his left side, you are straddled with your right leg over him, in front of his belt, and your left knee and shin alon his spine in back... your right arm underhooking his right arm:

Now the technique. You use your right hand to feed the collar accross to your left hand (which is under his head.) You then put your right palm behind his head and you straighten your back, and extend both wrists.)

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Old 12-26-2000, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like a type of a lapel choke, right? his right lapel going across the front of his neck to the left. as for a name... i dunno.
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Sounds like the same choke Wallid caught Royce with.
Start out for a clock choke and since you have his back already just apply with one hand.A lapel choke sounds right.As it is so basic I doubt it has been given any fancy names.
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I agree, this sounds very like a Rologio setup. To complete a clock choke pressure is applied by leaning on the victim's back while pulling on the lapel. To complete the choke walk your legs clockwise (for the situation described). The torque applied by turning your body puts an unblievable amount of pressue on the choke. In my experience the clock choke is the strongest of all chokes when applied correctly. The first time I applied this choke, I thought I was only half way through the move when my partner nearly blacked out. It requires very little effort, be careful when practicing!
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well, it's not a true clock choke, because the downward pressure that has been mentoned is applied with the same arm that's holding the lapel. i believe it's the forearm of the lapel-holding-arm that applies the downward pressure on the back of the neck. this then allows the other arm/hand to grab an arm of the victim keeping him in position while applying more knock-out pressure.

now that i think about it, this is actually a choke that i taught my 8 year old son since it requires minimal strength to be effective. although i taught him to do it from behind, not the side.

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It's called Kataha Jime, or "single wing strangle"

It's a powerful move that you can do behind your opponent as well, not just from triple threat.
The difference is that the opponents arm is extended upwards. I'll try to post a pic of it


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this one? Only from the triple threat position right?
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what do the brazilians call it?
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I've been taught it as the Triple Attack
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No this type of attack wouldn't be a setup for the clock choke unless somehow your opponent gets turtled on all fours and you have the collar of the Gi.

There are many variations from this position, which is one of my favorites. Besides the chokes that are avaliable, there is also the arm bar from this and also you can take the person's back by pulling and falling over, set your hooks and then going for Lion Killer Choke.
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sweep... uhhhh.. "lion killer choke"??? do you mean "mata leao"?? (hehehe)
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Different chokes for different folks,

but in this case, same move, English name.

Not many here speak Portugese
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This is a great offensive position to be in. A couple of things to look for. Definitely can go to the back by basically tucking your left flush with the persons back on the ground and sitting or rolling to your back. Once you get there you can now go for the choke or take the arm. A good move if you go for the choke is to take your right leg and bring it over persons left arm to block the counter.
You can also reach under persons head and try to grab his right wrist. Once you got it you can work the arm lock.
I almost always try to get the back and work the rest of the subs from there,,,remember the naked choke if the guy goes for ankles ets and leaves the neck open.
As for a name for the position I was always told this is actually called the side mount. When you lay out across the side that is the side position. I could be wrong here though.
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I have no idea the Portugeuse name of the technique...
Only the Japanese.
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Side mount=Triple threat position. I believe he was looking for the name of the choke.It is Kataha-Jime or Katana-Jime.I'm noy sure what that translates to or what it means in Portugeese.

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