The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Blue Wave Gym · 06-02-2005, 01:26 PM

what do you guys think, which grappeling style is best?

cakegirl · 06-02-2005, 08:26 PM

Of course I'm going to pick BJJ - that's the style I do!

EmptyneSs · 06-02-2005, 10:06 PM

all of the arts listed above are good for self defense. i personally prefer the jui jitsu derived arts like bjj, and judo because they are effective and they also teach u to use clothing to your advantage which really comes into play in real life.

lopezma · 06-03-2005, 08:07 PM

I seperate MMA from self-defence. Allow me to explain.

I see MMA, as a sport where two individuals have trained to "do battle" one with the other, There is a ref, a corner man, ect... it can be stopped at any time. You can even hold the person in the guard for a long time.

Self-defence is a different scenario. True self-defence isn't pretty. Yes, it involves kicking and punching (we prefer palm strikes in self-defence over punching), but along with it you must bite (I'm talking about taking pieces of skin and meat off), rakes (with nails) across the eyes. Listen, this may sound ugly, but when you sit down with both the rape victim and the rapist (interviewed many), you find what makes them tick. You find out how to stop them. Then there is the mental preparation that would take to long to explain.
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I]If I had to pick ONE style for MMA - I guess submission wrestling
Self-defence - Whatever happens - bite him, pez him (strong palm strike to the chin and pretend his head is a pEz dispenser), elbows, knees, kicks, hit them with the stick or rock you grabbed form the floor. [/I]

OmaPlata · 06-03-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Wave Gym

what do you guys think, which grappeling style is best?

-BJJ is probably the best, the only one "better" if you want to call it that is Vale Tudo, which is BJJ without the Gi and they train with headgear and pads and practice striking while grappling. But that style wont do much good without a good BJJ foundation. So go with BJJ.

-Cakegirl, where do you train? What belt are you? how old are you? I train here www.armbar.net

jubaji · 06-03-2005, 09:25 PM

Freestyle wrestling of course!

LoneHusky · 06-04-2005, 02:02 AM

I'm curious what the person who voted other had in mind.

SamuraiGuy · 06-27-2005, 06:09 PM

Hmm for self defense I would have to say Submission Wrestling... but not "submission wrestling" which is actually just BJJ.

I mean Freestyle WRESTLING (takedowns, wrestling controls) and knowledge and use of submissions. (kinda like the Jiu Jitsu/Wrestling hybrid)

For MMA Id have to say BJJ.

The reason being while with submission wrestling you may know how to do both takedowns and submissions, the Jiu Jitsu guys will have more ground techniques and skills.

In MMA you can basically lie down and have them come to the ground, or even attempt a takedown, if you do this they will probably take you down or you will take them down, then your in your field.

jubaji · 06-27-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

I mean Freestyle WRESTLING (takedowns, wrestling controls).

Yeah baby!!!

Tom Yum · 06-27-2005, 10:14 PM

I chose submission wrestling.

Freestyle wrestling + jujitsu/judo subs.

Freestyle wrestling is an awesome art...too bad I have to wait until school starts up to get back at it.

Wrestlers are the boxers of the grappling world.

CKD · 06-27-2005, 10:52 PM

Wrestling because my best memories stem from there and it helped get me away from my martial art illusions. Also either shooto or pancrase because they have striking on the ground and from the clinch so you do not to need to modify it for mma unlike the other arts mentioned. A lot of things in grappling change when you add striking.

JkD187 · 09-12-2005, 06:03 PM

as long as ur versed in stand up,clinch,ground n have enuff cardio 2 last 30 seconds u should b good

but as far as best style goes id have 2 go with shooto bc it teaches all of the above mentioned

EmptyneSs · 09-12-2005, 06:09 PM

judo alone is enough for self defense and mma.

jubaji · 09-13-2005, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JkD187

as long as ur versed in stand up,clinch,ground n have enuff cardio 2 last 30 seconds u should b good

but as far as best style goes id have 2 go with shooto bc it teaches all of the above mentioned

30 seconds?????????????

By the way, you might want to consider typing in English for the benefit of those who don't read "Punk" very well.

JkD187 · 09-13-2005, 11:29 AM

it was a joke buddy calm down b4 u hurt urself n if u cant read my typing well 2 damn bad

View Poll Results: which grappeling style is best for self-defense
BJJ	20	40.00%
Submission Wrestling	9	18.00%
Shoot wrestling or Shoot-fighting	3	6.00%
Judo	7	14.00%
Greco-Roman	2	4.00%
Freestyle Wrestling	1	2.00%
Catch Wrestling or Catch as Can Wrestling	3	6.00%
Japaneese ju-jitsu	8	16.00%
Pancrase or Pankration	1	2.00%
Other	5	10.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

06-02-2005, 01:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 965 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	what grappeling arts are the best for mma and self-defense what do you guys think, which grappeling style is best? __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

06-02-2005, 08:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
cakegirl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: under a pebble Posts: 881 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Of course I'm going to pick BJJ - that's the style I do! __________________

06-03-2005, 08:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
lopezma Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 79 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I seperate MMA from self-defence. Allow me to explain. I see MMA, as a sport where two individuals have trained to "do battle" one with the other, There is a ref, a corner man, ect... it can be stopped at any time. You can even hold the person in the guard for a long time. Self-defence is a different scenario. True self-defence isn't pretty. Yes, it involves kicking and punching (we prefer palm strikes in self-defence over punching), but along with it you must bite (I'm talking about taking pieces of skin and meat off), rakes (with nails) across the eyes. Listen, this may sound ugly, but when you sit down with both the rape victim and the rapist (interviewed many), you find what makes them tick. You find out how to stop them. Then there is the mental preparation that would take to long to explain. [ I]If I had to pick ONE style for MMA - I guess submission wrestling Self-defence - Whatever happens - bite him, pez him (strong palm strike to the chin and pretend his head is a pEz dispenser), elbows, knees, kicks, hit them with the stick or rock you grabbed form the floor. [/I] __________________ TRAIN WITH HEART AND TECHNIQUE! ROCK THE WORLD!

06-03-2005, 09:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
jubaji Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 10,108 Groans: 0 Groaned at 38 Times in 38 Posts	which grappeling style is best for self-defense? Freestyle wrestling of course! __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

06-02-2005, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
EmptyneSs Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Posts: 2,116 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	all of the arts listed above are good for self defense. i personally prefer the jui jitsu derived arts like bjj, and judo because they are effective and they also teach u to use clothing to your advantage which really comes into play in real life.

06-04-2005, 02:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
LoneHusky Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 575 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm curious what the person who voted other had in mind.

06-27-2005, 06:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm for self defense I would have to say Submission Wrestling... but not "submission wrestling" which is actually just BJJ. I mean Freestyle WRESTLING (takedowns, wrestling controls) and knowledge and use of submissions. (kinda like the Jiu Jitsu/Wrestling hybrid) For MMA Id have to say BJJ. The reason being while with submission wrestling you may know how to do both takedowns and submissions, the Jiu Jitsu guys will have more ground techniques and skills. In MMA you can basically lie down and have them come to the ground, or even attempt a takedown, if you do this they will probably take you down or you will take them down, then your in your field. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

06-27-2005, 10:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	I chose submission wrestling. Freestyle wrestling + jujitsu/judo subs. Freestyle wrestling is an awesome art...too bad I have to wait until school starts up to get back at it. Wrestlers are the boxers of the grappling world.

06-27-2005, 10:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
CKD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 771 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wrestling because my best memories stem from there and it helped get me away from my martial art illusions. Also either shooto or pancrase because they have striking on the ground and from the clinch so you do not to need to modify it for mma unlike the other arts mentioned. A lot of things in grappling change when you add striking.

09-12-2005, 06:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
JkD187 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NY! Posts: 982 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	as long as ur versed in stand up,clinch,ground n have enuff cardio 2 last 30 seconds u should b good but as far as best style goes id have 2 go with shooto bc it teaches all of the above mentioned

09-12-2005, 06:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
EmptyneSs Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Posts: 2,116 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	judo alone is enough for self defense and mma.

09-13-2005, 11:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
JkD187 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NY! Posts: 982 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	it was a joke buddy calm down b4 u hurt urself n if u cant read my typing well 2 damn bad

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