The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Blue Wave Gym · 06-13-2005, 12:55 PM

1. kimo
2. ken shamrock
3. tank abbot
4. dan severn
5. guy mezger
6. tito ortiz
7. gary goodrich
8. mark coleman
9. mark kerr
10. any of the japanese pro-wrestlers in pride
and there's a bunch more people I forgot
please guys for the love of god stop showing up on pay per view just so the promoters can fill up fight cards, your time is over we all liked you, now just enjoy your retirement.

SamuraiGuy · 06-14-2005, 08:18 AM

Tito Ortiz? Time is over, umm if im not mistaken he just beat vitor in his last fight, with coutures loss, lidell being the new champion, and him defeating vitor hes up for another title shot... how can you say his time is up, hes winning and has a good shot at getting the title back.

crazyjoe380 · 06-15-2005, 11:41 AM

Why is tito and guy on that list.. GUy is one of the best well rounded..

Blue Wave Gym · 06-15-2005, 02:38 PM

tito is the roy jones of mma(paper champion)just ask lee murry. He has always been nothing but talk and was proped up by the ufc during its troubled times and that's the only reason he's stiill there because of loyalty from the company.
Guy mezger used to be my favorite fighter but ask your self how many times has he got the shit beaten out of himself in pride? As much as ken shamrock has
also inson enoue comes to mind for too many beatings sufferd in pride

SamuraiGuy · 06-15-2005, 06:41 PM

Paper champion, go fight vitor belfort and say hes a paper champion, unless your saying that UFC is scripted like pro wrestling he obviously isnt shitty. Hes a serious contender in the Light-HeavyWeight Division, which is probably the best one they have although im a huge fan of welterweights going at it.

You can't say Tito is a paper champion when he is so obviously not.

SamuraiGuy · 06-15-2005, 06:41 PM

Oh and for the record I dont even like Tito, I would have loved to see Vitor knock the shit out of him.

crazyjoe380 · 06-15-2005, 07:44 PM

nO DOut

tHAT'z YOUR oPInIon.. Tito talks shit but he's in the cage, fighting.. he was champ for a long time, and his name is known.. that means something.. trust me.. he just depended on ground n pound too much.. he's working on his stand up .. i know he is.. he'll be back..

Mezger is a vet.. so what if loses fights here and there. he has more then 160 fights in mma, kickboxing, and pank, so he aint no chump.. that deserves respect ..

LatinoHeat · 06-16-2005, 01:32 AM

These are all exciting fighters why dont you like them?

JaredExtreme · 06-16-2005, 07:17 AM

Get rid of Baroni, Tito, Coleman.

Blue Wave Gym · 06-16-2005, 11:46 AM

Baroni is an asshole but at least he can fight. No mater how "good" tito is in the ring he's still a fucking joke, he talks like a retard and if he went over to pride he'd get the shit beat out of him in a heart beat, just like randy or chuck will do to him the next time they fight.

SamuraiGuy · 06-16-2005, 01:38 PM

So then why did you start a thread about peoples who's time is over....

You say no matter how good Tito is in the ring hes still a joke and a fucking retard. Right.... even if that was true, hes still good in the ring, and I dont want to watch Tito Ortiz take a cab, or do his dishes, I want tos ee him in the ring where he is good.

Your saying he needs to quit MMA because he talks like a retard....

You are probably right about him getting beaten by Randy or Chuck, Id love to see him smash Lidell though... and how do you know hed get the shit beat out of him in pride, hes pretty fucking good at fighting, the people in Pride arent any better than the people of the UFC. Vitor and Lidell were in both I know....

This was just a dumb list and a dumb thread.

JaredExtreme · 06-17-2005, 07:13 AM

I want to see CrazyJoe in the ring. That shit would be gangsta.

Mako Victim · 06-17-2005, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

the people in Pride arent any better than the people of the UFC. Vitor and Lidell were in both I know....

I disagree BIGTIME!! I'll admit that Vitor had a few win's in pride but the only the half decent fighter he beat was Heath Herring. Liddel beat Mezger and overeem but got beat by jackson..

Better yet put it like this, Vitor and Liddel might be considered some of the best in the UFC but if they was to join PRIDE they'd only be thought of decent or OK fighters..

Blue Wave Gym · 06-17-2005, 11:54 AM

That's what I'm saying, Vanderli Svlvia would work them all when will silva and liddell fight?Have randy and vanderli ever fought? Pride is #1 in mma and ufc is #2 although the ufc has been getting better lastely except for the too quickm stopages but that's probably the nevada and new york stat athletic commisions faults, if pride got ride of the novelty matches and ufc got rid of the people from years ago who hate each other and our only competitive against each other in mma(think how many of those there have been) then both organizations would be better.If you want ot have SEPERATE MASTERS Divison shows by themselves of if you want to have japanese pro-wrestler x v.s. another novelty, show that's a seperate event, then fine but don't fill up fight cards of main draws with has beens or novelties.Btw I respect the hell out of guy mezger so chill, in case you have'nt noticed many pro mma fighters have short life spans at the top of the sport(when compared to pro boxing) most will have 10 or less fights in the top 10 due to the competition level in mma(and injuries) plus the years of training/smaller show ladder climbing it takes to get there.

BryanS · 06-17-2005, 11:55 AM

tito only lost twice one to chuck and once to randy both bad ass fighters , so how does he suck, i personally think hes a boring fighter but he still wins, u must not watch mma on the regular man

06-13-2005, 12:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 965 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	mma fighters I never want to see fight again 1. kimo 2. ken shamrock 3. tank abbot 4. dan severn 5. guy mezger 6. tito ortiz 7. gary goodrich 8. mark coleman 9. mark kerr 10. any of the japanese pro-wrestlers in pride and there's a bunch more people I forgot please guys for the love of god stop showing up on pay per view just so the promoters can fill up fight cards, your time is over we all liked you, now just enjoy your retirement. __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

06-14-2005, 08:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tito Ortiz? Time is over, umm if im not mistaken he just beat vitor in his last fight, with coutures loss, lidell being the new champion, and him defeating vitor hes up for another title shot... how can you say his time is up, hes winning and has a good shot at getting the title back. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

06-15-2005, 11:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,369 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Why is tito and guy on that list.. GUy is one of the best well rounded.. __________________

06-15-2005, 02:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 965 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	why because!!!!!!!!!! tito is the roy jones of mma(paper champion)just ask lee murry. He has always been nothing but talk and was proped up by the ufc during its troubled times and that's the only reason he's stiill there because of loyalty from the company. Guy mezger used to be my favorite fighter but ask your self how many times has he got the shit beaten out of himself in pride? As much as ken shamrock has also inson enoue comes to mind for too many beatings sufferd in pride __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

06-15-2005, 06:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Paper champion, go fight vitor belfort and say hes a paper champion, unless your saying that UFC is scripted like pro wrestling he obviously isnt shitty. Hes a serious contender in the Light-HeavyWeight Division, which is probably the best one they have although im a huge fan of welterweights going at it. You can't say Tito is a paper champion when he is so obviously not. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

06-15-2005, 06:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh and for the record I dont even like Tito, I would have loved to see Vitor knock the shit out of him. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

06-15-2005, 07:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,369 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nO DOut tHAT'z YOUR oPInIon.. Tito talks shit but he's in the cage, fighting.. he was champ for a long time, and his name is known.. that means something.. trust me.. he just depended on ground n pound too much.. he's working on his stand up .. i know he is.. he'll be back.. Mezger is a vet.. so what if loses fights here and there. he has more then 160 fights in mma, kickboxing, and pank, so he aint no chump.. that deserves respect .. __________________

06-16-2005, 01:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
LatinoHeat Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 132 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	These are all Brillant Fighters These are all exciting fighters why dont you like them?

06-16-2005, 07:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Get rid of Baroni, Tito, Coleman. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

06-16-2005, 11:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 965 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yea Baroni is an asshole but at least he can fight. No mater how "good" tito is in the ring he's still a fucking joke, he talks like a retard and if he went over to pride he'd get the shit beat out of him in a heart beat, just like randy or chuck will do to him the next time they fight. __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

06-16-2005, 01:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	So then why did you start a thread about peoples who's time is over.... You say no matter how good Tito is in the ring hes still a joke and a fucking retard. Right.... even if that was true, hes still good in the ring, and I dont want to watch Tito Ortiz take a cab, or do his dishes, I want tos ee him in the ring where he is good. Your saying he needs to quit MMA because he talks like a retard.... You are probably right about him getting beaten by Randy or Chuck, Id love to see him smash Lidell though... and how do you know hed get the shit beat out of him in pride, hes pretty fucking good at fighting, the people in Pride arent any better than the people of the UFC. Vitor and Lidell were in both I know.... This was just a dumb list and a dumb thread. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

06-17-2005, 07:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I want to see CrazyJoe in the ring. That shit would be gangsta. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

06-17-2005, 11:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
Blue Wave Gym Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 965 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	exactly right mako That's what I'm saying, Vanderli Svlvia would work them all when will silva and liddell fight?Have randy and vanderli ever fought? Pride is #1 in mma and ufc is #2 although the ufc has been getting better lastely except for the too quickm stopages but that's probably the nevada and new york stat athletic commisions faults, if pride got ride of the novelty matches and ufc got rid of the people from years ago who hate each other and our only competitive against each other in mma(think how many of those there have been) then both organizations would be better.If you want ot have SEPERATE MASTERS Divison shows by themselves of if you want to have japanese pro-wrestler x v.s. another novelty, show that's a seperate event, then fine but don't fill up fight cards of main draws with has beens or novelties.Btw I respect the hell out of guy mezger so chill, in case you have'nt noticed many pro mma fighters have short life spans at the top of the sport(when compared to pro boxing) most will have 10 or less fights in the top 10 due to the competition level in mma(and injuries) plus the years of training/smaller show ladder climbing it takes to get there. __________________ Tiens, voila du boudin, voila du boudin, voila du boudin Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses, et les Lorrains Pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus, pour les Belges, il n'y en a plus Ce sont des tireurs au cul. Tireurs au cul

06-17-2005, 11:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
BryanS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: houston ,tx Posts: 18 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	tito only lost twice one to chuck and once to randy both bad ass fighters , so how does he suck, i personally think hes a boring fighter but he still wins, u must not watch mma on the regular man __________________ "those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid, thus the wise win the fight, while the ignorant fight to win"

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