The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Tameo · 06-19-2005, 09:31 PM

How does BJJ deal with rapid powerfull punches and elbows when they are comming in to attack?

SamuraiGuy · 06-19-2005, 09:48 PM

Lie on your back?

Tameo · 06-19-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

Lie on your back?

Nice defense! Im gonna sighn up for bjj today!

ApC23 · 06-19-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tameo

Nice defense! Im gonna sighn up for bjj today!

ahahaha

Arts Newbie · 06-19-2005, 10:29 PM

how about this

what type of martial art would compliment BJJ the best?

karate?
judo?
TKD?
MT?

i was gonna do TKD but ive heard so many negative things about it that im starting to think twice

should i maybe look into something else to go with my BJJ?

Tameo · 06-19-2005, 11:06 PM

I dunno i do Cheung's wing chun and it works perfect for me.
Whatever you choose id try to choose something that has realistic training and a lot of conditioning and sparring classes because withought contact practice MA is just theory.

Tameo · 06-19-2005, 11:08 PM

But back to topic how do BJJ guys deal with rapid powerfull elbows and punches when they are comming in to attack.

vincechoo · 06-19-2005, 11:37 PM

it's been said in many way but here it is again:
to learn how to defend against strikes, learn how to strike
to learn how to defend against grappling, learn how to grapple

there is no "best" way or "best" art just what is the most appropriate action at that given moment in time. that action depends largely on opportunity and your urgency for action.

best training!

mixwell · 06-20-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tameo

How does BJJ deal with rapid powerfull punches and elbows when they are comming in to attack?

have you heard of the clinch ?? elbows do work good in the clinch but idont know if you are going to get enough power to KO someone.. thats like asking.. what does a boxer do when a bjj guy has him mounted.. its a retarded question in my opinion.. no offense thats just what i think. does your MA deal with attacks from the clinch or on the ground or is it just when you are at a distance ? Just wondering.. ok im out.

peace

Tameo · 06-20-2005, 01:50 AM

I just dont see how you can grab someone it they are trying to tear you apart with fast combos of punches

OmaPlata · 06-20-2005, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tameo

How does BJJ deal with rapid powerfull punches and elbows when they are comming in to attack?

-the idea is to keep your distance and shoot in for a takedown, or tie the guy up with double underhooks and trip him, or throw him, etc. (stay to close or too far away) As a BJJ fighter you may have to take a punch or two, but once you get the guy down, its a whole new fight and if the opponent has no ground game its going to be short fight

Gecko · 06-20-2005, 04:13 AM

I agree with Omaplata. I think that you would try to defend and counter the best you can until you take them down. Even without any MA background most people know how to keep their arms up and throw a punch. Once on the ground if you dont have any experience its all over. My instructor can submit me in less than 30 seconds once it goes to the ground.

dkm · 06-20-2005, 09:40 AM

too bad the stand up striking arts don't deal with someone attacking you with fists and knees while on the ground.

blend · 06-20-2005, 10:11 AM

have to agree with omaplata here... summed up the game very well. it's a distance game. keeping out of the opponent's strike zone until u have the opportunity to close the gap. the success of it will depend on a person's ability to read the distance and to read the cadence of his/her attacker (technique as well, of course)

tameo.. perhaps you should watch some more MMA matches. almost all of them involve the scenario we are talking about here. and as vincechoo pointed out, to improve your effectiveness to defend against something, learn how to use that thing... thus the cross-arts training prevalent in post-mod MA.

perhaps you could clarify exactly where you are heading with your question. what's the bottom line?

SamuraiGuy · 06-20-2005, 03:26 PM

My lie down thing was serious.

Its true if I knew only BJJ, I would just lie down If someone was trying to strike with me. You could lie down, then they can either go to the gorund with you to hit you, stop fighting you, or try to kick you and eventaully you acn tie up their legs and bring them to the ground.

If you want to take it to the ground you bring it to a clinch, then throw them on the ground. Or try to use knees.

Also a BJJ guy might just throw some fast elbows and punches back.

Honestly I would take a punch to get a double leg takedown if we were in a MMA matchup. Sets me up for exactly wehre I want to be.

06-19-2005, 09:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tameo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 384 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bjj vs striking How does BJJ deal with rapid powerfull punches and elbows when they are comming in to attack? __________________

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SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lie on your back? __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

06-19-2005, 11:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tameo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 384 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I dunno i do Cheung's wing chun and it works perfect for me. Whatever you choose id try to choose something that has realistic training and a lot of conditioning and sparring classes because withought contact practice MA is just theory. __________________

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Tameo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 384 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	But back to topic how do BJJ guys deal with rapid powerfull elbows and punches when they are comming in to attack. __________________

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Tameo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 384 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just dont see how you can grab someone it they are trying to tear you apart with fast combos of punches __________________

06-19-2005, 10:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Arts Newbie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	how about this what type of martial art would compliment BJJ the best? karate? judo? TKD? MT? i was gonna do TKD but ive heard so many negative things about it that im starting to think twice should i maybe look into something else to go with my BJJ?

06-19-2005, 11:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
vincechoo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 44 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	it's been said in many way but here it is again: to learn how to defend against strikes, learn how to strike to learn how to defend against grappling, learn how to grapple there is no "best" way or "best" art just what is the most appropriate action at that given moment in time. that action depends largely on opportunity and your urgency for action. best training!

06-20-2005, 04:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
Gecko Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with Omaplata. I think that you would try to defend and counter the best you can until you take them down. Even without any MA background most people know how to keep their arms up and throw a punch. Once on the ground if you dont have any experience its all over. My instructor can submit me in less than 30 seconds once it goes to the ground.

06-20-2005, 09:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
dkm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 286 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	too bad the stand up striking arts don't deal with someone attacking you with fists and knees while on the ground.

06-20-2005, 10:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
blend Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	have to agree with omaplata here... summed up the game very well. it's a distance game. keeping out of the opponent's strike zone until u have the opportunity to close the gap. the success of it will depend on a person's ability to read the distance and to read the cadence of his/her attacker (technique as well, of course) tameo.. perhaps you should watch some more MMA matches. almost all of them involve the scenario we are talking about here. and as vincechoo pointed out, to improve your effectiveness to defend against something, learn how to use that thing... thus the cross-arts training prevalent in post-mod MA. perhaps you could clarify exactly where you are heading with your question. what's the bottom line?

06-20-2005, 03:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	My lie down thing was serious. Its true if I knew only BJJ, I would just lie down If someone was trying to strike with me. You could lie down, then they can either go to the gorund with you to hit you, stop fighting you, or try to kick you and eventaully you acn tie up their legs and bring them to the ground. If you want to take it to the ground you bring it to a clinch, then throw them on the ground. Or try to use knees. Also a BJJ guy might just throw some fast elbows and punches back. Honestly I would take a punch to get a double leg takedown if we were in a MMA matchup. Sets me up for exactly wehre I want to be. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

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