Sambo

[Zapatista]

Hi I'm new here and I'm new to MMA. (I did Kum Do for 3 months before quitting realizing it was pointless and I want to have a real world based martial art, when am I going to have a sword along with my enemy in real life?)

Anyways, I'd like to eventually compete, though I need a lot of conditioning before I'm even ready to train. (I'm 6' 3" 255 lbs, most of it isn't muscle) Back to the point. Since I want to do MMA competitions, I would like to have a grappling art and a striking art. I already know that I'm most likely going to do Muay Thai for striking but I'm undecided on the grappling. At first I wanted to do BJJ but then I saw Sambo and I think I want to do that. The only problem is I don't know any schools around me (I live in the suburbs of Chicago) that teach Sambo and there are a few around me that teach BJJ.

So basically, should I try to find a Sambo school or just do BJJ? Is Sambo any good?

Sorry if I rambled at points in this post, and any feedback would be much appreciated.

[47MartialMan]

If you cant afford to relocate/travel, get to training anything financially available for you.

[blend]

hi zapatista.

just as a further option, you may want to consider shooto. it's one of the few arts that does combine stand-up n groundwork as a wholistic system. i would thoroughly recommend it (of course, depending on the teacher and school) only problem is, i'm not sure how available it is in the states. my training and experience of it was in japan.

all the best

blend

[EmptyneSs]

there are 3 styles of sambo. sport sambo(which is alot like bjj, its mostly ju jitsu derived) , self defense sambo(only defensive techniques , i think its like aikido and aiki ju jitsu), and combat sambo wich i dont know much about, but is evidently pretty hardcore. my friend worked with a guy who trained in combat sambo and supposedly for his blackbelt test he had to fight 3 blackbelts from other arts, full contact, at the same time and survive.

bjj is pretty good too, and its pretty effective. ether way, just start training. u got so much work to do the only place u will be competing anytime soon is in backyard wrestling matches with 15 year olds. start training.

boxing, muay thai, sambo, judo, ju jitsu are all arts that are good for mma, so go train in one or more of those and start eating right, drinking lots of water, and doing lots of cardio, abwork, and weights in additon to your ma training.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by blend

hi zapatista.

just as a further option, you may want to consider shooto. it's one of the few arts that does combine stand-up n groundwork as a wholistic system. i would thoroughly recommend it (of course, depending on the teacher and school) only problem is, i'm not sure how available it is in the states. my training and experience of it was in japan.

all the best

blend

But it is not a helpful option. Availability is the biggest problem when someone inquires what art should they study.

I see this type of thread over and over on several forums.

Thus, when someone is unsure of what art to study, people respond with their preferences.

These preferences, many of which are not going to be readily nearby.

The best thing for these people who cannot make up their mind or are unsure of what art to study, is to list what arts are available to them in their area. Then from the list, helpful member can post pros and cons to each on the list.


So Zapatista, list what is available in your area, and we all can go from there.

[blend]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

But it is not a helpful option. Availability is the biggest problem when someone inquires what art should they study.

well... not a helpful one is an assumption. ie... you are assuming it isn't available to him.

your point about listing what IS available to the enquirer in his/her area is an excellent and brilliantly simple point. ;-)

blend

[Zapatista]

Well I know that in my the town that I live in there are the following:
- Ju Jitsu
- Hapkido
- Tae Kwon Do
- Akido
- Karate
- Boxing
- Kickboxing (American, but this is probably out of the question because of cost)

The Ju Jitsu that is taught is taught in two locations. One location is a private business that teaches Gracie and a Japanese version of Ju Jitsu and then there is the community college that I attend which teaches Ju Jitsu but I'm not sure how indepth they go.

[blend]

[quote=Zapatista I would like to have a grappling art and a striking art. I already know that I'm most likely going to do Muay Thai for striking but I'm undecided on the grappling.[/QUOTE]

well based on the list you have provided zapatista, how would you now decide?

blend

[lopezma]

Hey Zapista, based on the list of places you gave and your purpose (MMA fights) I would pick boxing and JJ (prefarably BJJ), at least start at the boxing gym. You WILL get your conditioning started. (You mentioned Muay Thai, but did not put it on the list, no Muay Thai close I guess - I would pick a Muay Thai school over the boxing alone). Another thing to consider is you may be able to find a school that focuses on MMA training, and if so, you may want to go there. Please be aware the following may sound a bit corny, but it will be up to you to make it fact! With the proper training, conditioning, and diet, picture this....At 6'3" -205lb - fighting for the Championship - ZAPISTA! GOOD LUCK!

[47MartialMan]

See, with a list, it can now be realistically examined

Originally Posted by Zapatista

If finances permot, go with the following:
- Ju Jitsu
-- Boxing
Location is a private business that teaches Gracie and a Japanese version of Ju Jitsu.

[LoneHusky]

Sport SAMBO is similiar to Judo, but with some differences in rules, protocol, and uniform.

Self-Defense SAMBO is similiar to Aikijujutsu because it is intended to be entirely defensive against attacks by armed and unarmed criminals. It is also designed for specific professions, such as taxi drivers, bank employees, bodyguards, various law enforcement agents, etc. It is also very useful for rape prevention and children's self-defense.

Combat SAMBO is a very aggressive system designed to prepare an individual to be effective in any situation. The purpose of Combat SAMBO is to "survive". Combat SAMBO includes techniques from both Sport and Self-Defense SAMBO, but uses them in different ways. It includes techniques that are dangerous and prohibited in sports. The Russian Military, Police, special Crowd Control units, Marines, and others have employed Combat SAMBO for all aspects of self-defense and close combat.-copied and pasted.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LoneHusky

Sport SAMBO is similiar to Judo, but with some differences in rules, protocol, and uniform.

Self-Defense SAMBO is similiar to Aikijujutsu because it is intended to be entirely defensive against attacks by armed and unarmed criminals. It is also designed for specific professions, such as taxi drivers, bank employees, bodyguards, various law enforcement agents, etc. It is also very useful for rape prevention and children's self-defense.

Combat SAMBO is a very aggressive system designed to prepare an individual to be effective in any situation. The purpose of Combat SAMBO is to "survive". Combat SAMBO includes techniques from both Sport and Self-Defense SAMBO, but uses them in different ways. It includes techniques that are dangerous and prohibited in sports. The Russian Military, Police, special Crowd Control units, Marines, and others have employed Combat SAMBO for all aspects of self-defense and close combat.-copied and pasted.

I had a student (whom was a foreign exchange collgiate) that had studied Sambo.

I myself, picked up a few things. However, to HIS surprse, that which I learned from him, I had learned to counter and he had learned from me in reciprocal.