"best" mma mix

[danfaggella]

i hear allot about thai boxing and BJJ working together to make the best fighters for mma. Is BJJ really the best grapplin art? is thai boxing the best striking art? how come no mma guys know kung fu or wing chun or any of that stuff?

[Elfunko]

Thai boxing and BJJ I'm sure is an awesome mix for 1v1, but what about 1 vs multiple? If you don't take all but one out standing, the BJJ is going to be tough. So if you are training for multiple attackers scenarios, your gonna need more I think.

[danfaggella]

well im just talking about a 1v1 fight, is muy thai and bjj "the best"?

and why isnt kungfu or wing chun or even tea quan do (SP?) seen in mma fighters, espesially in like UFC an stuff?

[veilmk5]

what mix would be good for fighting against multiple attackers?

[SamuraiGuy]

as snoop dogg once put it.

"AK-47 how you gona stop that"

for 1 on 1 and multiple attackers.

If your fighting someone one on one, with no weapons and you know Muay Thai and BJJ, I think youd be fine.

The reason you dont see alot of Kung Fu, or Tae Kwon Do is simple.

If you practice a striking art (Kung Fu) with the hand coming from the hip, whats in front of your face? Nothing, and the guy can prolly beat your brains in while protecting his own face.

With Tae Kwon Doe, you throw a jump spinning kick, 95% of the time or so I would say you miss, then you get thrown on the ground, have horrible position, and thats only if the guy isnt pounding your face in with a nice ground and pound.

Just some thoughts.

[lopezma]

I agree with Samuraiguy!

[little bad boy]

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

With Tae Kwon Doe, you throw a jump spinning kick, 95% of the time or so I would say you miss, then you get thrown on the ground, have horrible position, and thats only if the guy isnt pounding your face in with a nice ground and pound.

Not to create any fuzz... but... jump spinning kicks are just an option. there are other strkes in the TKD arsenal.

Nevertheless, I have high respects and very interested with Jiujitsu. Heck! I'm gonna be starting with Judo this weekend.

[lopezma]

First off, we teach both TKD and BJJ. (We teach kickboxing; working toward the muay thai). I'm training one of my Sherrif Dept. Deputies to compete in the Police Olympics, in point sparring. He is going to do great! Anyway, my roots are in TKD, and I have a great deal of respect for the traditional martial arts, but besides a strong roundhouse (which KB also teaches), TKD really dosn't come in use in a MMA match! Trust me, when I was a black belt in TKD and winning competions, I felt invinsible (granted I was younger), but when I went to a small NHB fight (years ago - 90's), wrestler shot at me and I was on my back on the floor throwing punches to the back of the guys head and then he submitted me with an armbar . I was like WHAT THE HECK IS THIS ! My elbow hurt for about 3 months after. Since then I have been working and competing in different grappling, mma (which the thread is about) and bjj tounamnet, and even stick fighting tournaments. Grappling has been a tremendous part of the GAME! Don't get me wrong, I love TKD, I still go to point fighting competions and part of my dream is to have some of my teens and children go to the Olympics in TKD, but you must evolve as a fighter to be a true martial artist! Sorry if this was too long!

[danfaggella]

yeah im not saying to neglect grappling

my question is:

why is BJJ the grappling art EVERYONE seems to be using in MMA?
why is muy thai the striking art EVERYONE seems to be using in MMA?

arent there other practical and valid martial arts out there!!!!!!?

[SamuraiGuy]

Sure, its just that Thai Boxing and BJJ will cover almost all your bases.

All the legal weapons you can use while standing are used in Thai Boxing.

If you train in boxing, you may have better hands then the other guy, but he has good hands, good knees, good elbows, good feet.

Theres no point in training one of those when you can train them all at the same time.

With BJJ, you kinda need BJJ now because everyone is so versed in it, if you dont know it they will use it on you, so you have to know it to compete with that.. and then the next guy has to know it to compete with you.

There are other grappling arts, but BJJ is needed, and its really effective too.

[lopezma]

The other "arts" I would suggest would be Judo, wrestling, kickboxing, and boxing. Russian Sambo comes to mind, but I don't know it personally, but I understand it is a pretty good martial art for mma!

[shirase]

some other options that are and have been proven to work effectively in mma are wrestling, submission grappling, pankration and kyokushin karate. Also, theres alot of effective southeast asian arts similar to muay thai that are very effective(ex burmese boxing) although they are pretty rare to find. Also, there are a large variety of filipino hand to hand arts that have effective striking and grappling portions as well as weapons training, but they are generally rarer as well.

[danfaggella]

thats what i hope to find and train in someday, besides submission grappling, something unique and effective, i will dabble in the popular striking arts but i like wing chun so much, but i cant find it like ANYWHERE in america, let alone rhode island.

[LoneHusky]

Originally Posted by lopezma

The other "arts" I would suggest would be Judo, wrestling, kickboxing, and boxing. Russian Sambo comes to mind, but I don't know it personally, but I understand it is a pretty good martial art for mma!

I've been interested in taking judo once I move to college. sadly there's no bjj program there.

[lopezma]

Judo is Awesome! I can't tell you how many judo flips I've done against opponents. When training law enforcement officers, judo is one of the pillars we use. You can go to the olympics in judo. Good luck!