Fighting Dirty

[blackbelt22]

Is it ok to fight dirty in a real fight?

[BoarSpear]

Originally Posted by blackbelt22

Is it ok to fight dirty in a real fight?

The ONLY dirty techniques are the ones the OTHER guy uses.

[Blue Wave Gym]

Originally Posted by BoarSpear

The ONLY dirty techniques are the ones the OTHER guy uses.

LOL OMG that's fucking great

[mixwell]

I think in a real fight there is no fighting dirty.. YOu have to do what you have to do to survive even it is by fighting "dirty"

[Warrior189]

Originally Posted by mixwell

I think in a real fight there is no fighting dirty.. YOu have to do what you have to do to survive even it is by fighting "dirty"

So fighting one-on-one then out of no where someone comes over n start beating on you or the person your fighting against. So thats not a dirty fight?

[Cyclops]

Bad guys never fight fair. Muggers, for example will tend to pick their targets, wait for the right moment when you least expect it, utilize weapons, bring a friend, etc. Same with most street thugs and hoodlums.
Fighting "fair" is something that would get you killed against a determined and violent attacker.. Always fight dirty!

[Tant01]

This question is relative. "Dirty" as in not saying on gaurd to your opponent? Or dirty as in planting IED's in the path or roadway?

[RYO9]

yes, if it comes down to your life you should do enaything you can to survive.

Mullins

[BoarSpear]

Originally Posted by Tant01

This question is relative. "Dirty" as in not saying on gaurd to your opponent? Or dirty as in planting IED's in the path or roadway?

Dude, on gaurd? is this a movie? are we in a ring? if not then there is no such thing as a dirty fighting or cheating. Two or more attackers, guns, knives,sticks etc this is real life. Bad guys dont play by the rule's (whatever YOU may imagine them to be) thats why they are called badguys.... As for Planting IED's well..thats war and there are certainly no rules in war except one ,that whoever wins gets to write the history books. yes there is a such thing as a geneva convention, but you need a lawyer these days to see if you qualify for its protections. How would you define a dirty technique? please name a couple. Eye gouges , groin strikes and or rips, knee strikes , elbows,stomps , spitting, biting, screaming in ear or ripping it off,biting off noses slapping ears etc these are the things that define a fight, they usually go in between the punches and kicks and throws, chokes and bone breaks or other assorted mayhem that defines fighting.Fights are for survival IE NO RULES, If there are rules its a competition. if the reward for "winning" is anything other than survival or escape from immediate danger its a sport. And yes there are and should be rules in sports, they are for fun and profit(personal growth as well as financial reward) .Oh and entertainment of course.

[Mike Brewer]

Please understand that I do not mean this in any kind of cliche, "random quoting of cool euphemisms" kind of way. At this stage in my life, I feel that I've pretty much gotten all of the "fighting for fun" and "proving my manhood" out of the way. These days, I see two real kinds of fighting. Competition, which is really just sport to me, and falls into the category of fighting for simplicity's sake, and combat. Combat is what happens when another person takes it upon themselves to impose their will forcefully upon you to cause you harm, take away your liberties, or in most respects violate your ideals. Family and your close friends fall into the "you" and "your" descriptors for the purposes of this explanation. You might even extend that to include random people you feel are being placed in a position in which they cannot defend themselves against an outside influence or "bully" as well. By bully, I of course mena criminals and such (and sure, terrorists fall into that) along with your run of the mill bullies. With all that said:

If it's worth fighting for, it's worth fighting dirty for.

Once you choose to fight, really fight, you are choosing to impose your will on another. Done with the right intent, I believe this is, for the most part a moral thing. Done simply because you can, it is repugnant and irresponsible. That means a responsibility to take things only as far as you must - which is not to say meeting an offense with equal force. It means winning with the least amount of force required. In other words, if you see a twenty-one year old picking on an sixteen year old and you choose to intervene, must you pull out a pistol and blow his head off? If it's not necessary and you do it anyway, you're just (if not more) wrong. Now, can you sneak in behind him and slap on a choke before he knows you're there? Sure. Can you distract him and try and talk him down, popping him with a good, straight cross mid sentence to catch him off guard? Absolutely. it's a matter of degrees. And like most "competitions" I believe not in finding an equalizer, but an advantage. I don't want to be on equal terms. I don't want things to be fair. And I don't care if the guy who loses feels like I was wrong for winning. The point is, if it's serious enough to become that involved in, then you also need to be willing to go as far as is necessary (not always farther than necessary, but sometimes), and you need to have the moral character to be able to justify and live with your actions and their consequences. That includes the lawsuit and jail time, revenge from your victim or his acquaintances, etc.

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by BoarSpear

Dude, on gaurd? .....

LOL Not very sporting is it? More like dominating your victims with strong arm tactics or a deadly weapon. And the whole host of "less lethal" alternatives. Squirt him in the face (eyes) with crazy glue... that's pretty dirty! Another "secret" Modern Ninja Metsubushi technique?

When he tries to wipe it off his fingers stick to his face! ...eyes glued shut, hand stuck... that's gotta be dirty?

[BoarSpear]

Sticky yes ,funny undoubtedly but dirty ? No ...not to mention the backfire alternative, suppose he has time to grab you and superglue himself to you? and now since u blinded him blind he starts stabbing/shooting u? maybe not such a good idea...but would be funny in a jackie chan flick.

[mixwell]

Originally Posted by Warrior189

So fighting one-on-one then out of no where someone comes over n start beating on you or the person your fighting against. So thats not a dirty fight?

I think what the poster was referring to was eye gouging and dirty moves in one -on-one. Thats what I was referring to that also.. Hell if i were getting my ass beat and my friends came in and beat the shiz outta the guy i wouldn't complain.

[Garland]

As my grand daddy Wayne always used to say; "ain't no such thing as a fair fight."
of course, he said alot of other shit too, such as when one of my friends asked him if he'd ever killed somebody in the war...
his response; "well, we weren't over there to ****'em."
tough old man...

I remember another time...now this is priceless...another old man started bitching at my friends and myself about lighting off fireworks around the 4th...and my gramps overheard and went over there and bitched the guy out...hard-core. I thought he was gonna beat the other guy's ass.

[Garland]

CRAZY GLUE?!!
seriously folks...what the ****?
I can one up that...I work in a restraunt.
(one third ground dried thai chillies, two thirds wasabi powder, let sit in fish sauce for a few days...just enough fish sauce to soak it, not enough to completely masserate it, let dry, crumble and mix with fine sand/silt.)
Somebody fucks with you...kapow. Just blow a little in their face.