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Old 09-10-2005, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just read the Human Rights Watch entire 378-page report about prison rape in the US. Here it is if anyone wants to read it: http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html

I would like to know what you, as an accomplished martial artist, think would happen to you if you were placed in a prison and someone tried to make you his bitch. Would you be able to fight off the average con (usually someone who is street smart ie he was a member of a gang), what about a group of them, what about someone much larger than you? What type of martial arts would be best to know if you were in prison? I think a combination of BJJ and MT would be pretty good but I'm not that knowledgeable. What would be the best strategy to avoid being raped, would it be to immediately attack the biggest toughest guy you see and constantly attack anyone for the slightest reason to establish that you know how to fight, or would it be to ignore everyone until they actually try something, or what?
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You haven't been convicted of something and are worried about ending up in prison, are you?
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lol.... nail a board to your ass.... what else... jeez...

I think it would be hard to fight off a bunch of 300 pound prison inmates who want to do you.... unless your like Jean Claude Van Damme or something.. than its easy... saw it in this movie once...
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I would like to think that I could defend myself against multiple attackers to a point. As far as which style would be the most effective? Multiple attackers + BJJ = ?

I would think along with MT, a style that emphasizes improvised weapons. Since I am partial to Sayok (and my blades) I would hope that this would give me a better advantage.
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I think your best bet is to not F*ck up so you never have to go to jail.. I think that your pretty screwed as far as that.. even if you kick someones ass, they could come back with numbers and shanks and your done.. The best bet I would say is to just mind your own business if you get locked up and hope that nothing like that ever happens.
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I think if someone tries to do something to you and you use your BJJ on him and dislocate his shoulder I doubt he's gonna try again. But who knows, some of those guys are crazy. I think BJJ is definitely a must-know. Then you also need some kind of striking art, maybe MT. They use all kind of improvised weapons in there, for example pens. A pen is a good weapon.
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I just read the Human Rights Watch entire 378-page report about prison rape in the US. Here it is if anyone wants to read it: http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html

I would like to know what you, as an accomplished martial artist, think would happen to you if you were placed in a prison and someone tried to make you his bitch. Would you be able to fight off the average con (usually someone who is street smart ie he was a member of a gang), what about a group of them, what about someone much larger than you? What type of martial arts would be best to know if you were in prison? I think a combination of BJJ and MT would be pretty good but I'm not that knowledgeable. What would be the best strategy to avoid being raped, would it be to immediately attack the biggest toughest guy you see and constantly attack anyone for the slightest reason to establish that you know how to fight, or would it be to ignore everyone until they actually try something, or what?
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I think if someone tries to do something to you and you use your BJJ on him and dislocate his shoulder I doubt he's gonna try again.

How long are you going to survive on the ground with multiple attackers? While you are rearranging thug #1, thug 2,3 and 4 are stomping your head and pulling your pants down.....
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How long are you going to survive on the ground with multiple attackers? While you are rearranging thug #1, thug 2,3 and 4 are stomping your head and pulling your pants down.....
True, but you're not gonna be grapping with him for a long time, just long enough to break something to put him out of action. It only takes a second to dislocate someone's joint if you know what you're doing. Then move on to the next guy. But I have never been in a real fight so maybe what I'm saying isn't realistic...
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Interesting.
That's only your opinion.It depends on what the meaning of the word "it" is.Fascinating. Did you see the movement?Umm.
Can you imagine being in a real fight so maybe what he or she is saying is not realistic?
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long story short.........this dude, lets call him Ketchum, which was his last name, was (prolly still is) in prison, and his buddy (on the outside) was robbed and had his gf raped in front of him while he was tied up and watching (in his own house- home invasion, drug related prolly) . SO the rapist robber gets caught and sent to prison, where who else is staying, Ketchum (not a friendly lookin dude, think Kimo when he faught Royce)... so Ketchum and his buddies get a hold of the rapist, so they first break both of his arms (to keep him from putting up much of a fight) and then rape and further beat him. Point is, with both your arms broken, its not much fun to fight back
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According to my cousins who have gone to prison, the best way to not get ass pounded is to be the most holy christian, God-loving man possible. Even if you have to pretend. There's something about them that prisoners just leave alone. Carry a bible with you everywhere and read it all the time and spout gospel. That's the best way to stay out of fights and getting pounded.
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I could be totally wrong about this, but I have an idea. Maybe you could brutally murder someone who is a bully, maybe while they were sleeping, or lifting weights. Do something sick a bizzare like dismember them or mutilate their body. That way you'd have a reputation for being sick bastard and they wouldn't want to mess with you.
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Maybe you could try a fake move. Act like you like it and you're more than willing to do something with them. Maybe give him a container of lube and wink at him. Even do some gay shit (survival) to get him to drop his guard. Think about it. Get the guy to take his clothes off act like you're going to perform oral sex.......rub on his legs like you're really a homosexual...then.........BAM....double leg TD! pass the guard,-- ground n pound, transition to arm bar.....break it....badly, break the other one!.... make sure other people see it. I don't know.. I'm sure someone is probably going to reply to this and tell me what a jackass I am. Hopefully some of you will get a good laugh out of it. I agree that the best thing, is just not to get sent to prision.
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the only way to prevent getting raped in prison is to join a gang immediately. even then ur risks of getting raped are high, unless u have some kind of clout. other than that, ur gonna get raped. it doenst matter how big or tough u are, or what style u know, u cant fight off an entire group of inmates hellbent on penetrating your anus.
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