The Ultimate in Martial Arts

E1am · 10-02-2000, 08:36 PM

I saw the fight a week after it happened on the Fuji TV rebroadcast. Ken was beating the snot out of Fujita before he decided to throw in the towel. Why did he quit? Was he sick, injured, or just out of shape? Did they explain it on the US PPV broadcast? I really hope Fujita doesn't get anymore lucky wins. I'm tired of seeing Inoki's lantern jaw at ringside.

Ryu (non-working password · 10-02-2000, 08:59 PM

I haven't seen it yet, but from what I heard the night of the fight Fujita started beating the hell out of Ken near the end of the bout.
Didn't Fujita start connecting hard?

Ryu

Martial Artist · 10-02-2000, 09:21 PM

WORK........

E1am · 10-02-2000, 09:36 PM

Ryu,

No, Ken beat Fujita in every way. Towards the end of the fight he just tied him up and stalled. But Fujita wasn't doing anything. After the towel was thrown in Fujita was asking him why he stopped. He looked more surprised than anyone. Ken seemed to just totally gas out. But maybe he broke his hand or something.

MA,

Did you see the fight? Before I saw it I thought maybe it was a work. But after seeing it I'd have to say that the only way it was a work is if Ken forgot that it was supposed to be a fake fight and then suddenly remembered and thew in the towel to avoid knocking him out.

YeLLa-TiGeR · 10-02-2000, 10:27 PM

Fujita's mouthpiece fell out from the force of Ken's blows! No way it can be a work. He gassed plain and simple. Ken even said so on Eyada. Ken WAS dominating the fight, then as the fight progressed, his shots got a little bit weaker. Then towards the end, he just gave up and hung on.

Martial Artist · 10-02-2000, 10:44 PM

No I havent seen the fight but i heard it was a work.

10-02-2000, 11:01 PM

If he wanted to do works he would have stayed in the WWF.

This loss really hurts his reputation, losing to a B-level fighter like Fujita. Damn that guy can take a beating though.

Ken's "gameness" definitely failed him. I guess Fujita took away his "warrior spirit".

Quad · 10-03-2000, 08:50 AM

It looks like a heart failure, because he was rushed to the hospital after that.

10-03-2000, 01:58 PM

It was a failure of heart, that's for sure.

Ken admitted on eYada that he wasn't prepared. He gave up.

I don't know why he didn't go to the mat with Fujita. The guy barely has more submission skill than I do.

Bau13 · 10-03-2000, 02:13 PM

I'd like to see you fight Fujita

10-03-2000, 02:28 PM

Bau13:

I knew some wise-ass would take exception to that comment.

I didn't say I could TAP Fujita, and he IS a goddamn monster, but that doesn't make him an elite submission fighter.

Yes, he's better than me. Any halfway-decent NHB fighter damn well ought to be.

You may now resume your Thought-policing activities.

Hawk · 10-03-2000, 06:29 PM

Ken was having major problems training for this fight.
From what I heard out of Dallas he was having dizzy spells in training and many of his guys were worried about him. The confidential word was if Ken didn't finish him quick, he'd lose. I found this out right before they flew out for Japan. I promised not to say anything until after it was over and will not give out my source of information because I don't want to cause him problems with Ken, but Shamrock had dire physical problems before he left. In the shape I heard he was in, which obviously was straight stuff, Ken was crazy to get in the ring.
Hawk

10-03-2000, 07:47 PM

Hey Hawk:

That puts a whole different slant on things!

Especially coming from a "Gracie-worshipper" like yourself!

Thanks for the inside info.

Zhoozhitsu · 10-03-2000, 11:24 PM

That was no worked fight. Kenny shot his wad and was left w/ nothing at the end of round 1. Pure & simple. He was throwing bombs on Fujita all night. Fujita's only skill seems to be taking punishment like some old junkyard dog. His main expertise is in blocking punches & kicks w/ his face. I can't believe he is given the respect that he is by so many.

whodashoe · 10-04-2000, 11:57 AM

when i was reading the play by play coverage on the underground it sounded like a work, they said "kens hitting him hard........BUT OH NO!!! the punches have no effect, fujita's asking for more!!!" so i had my suspicions....but then i saw the match, ken does rock fujita with some huge punches, no way was that a work, I think although ken has now improved his striking so he is now a good striker, he has not had much of a chance to use the striking in a match so when he did he gassed, simple as that.
or i hope so........i hate works.

10-02-2000, 09:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Martial Artist Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 536 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	WORK........ __________________ "Kerr should sparr Mike Tyson because they have talked before on the phone" Tape Lord

10-02-2000, 10:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Martial Artist Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 536 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No I havent seen the fight but i heard it was a work. __________________ "Kerr should sparr Mike Tyson because they have talked before on the phone" Tape Lord

10-02-2000, 11:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ronin Guest Posts: n/a	Ken gassed... If he wanted to do works he would have stayed in the WWF. This loss really hurts his reputation, losing to a B-level fighter like Fujita. Damn that guy can take a beating though. Ken's "gameness" definitely failed him. I guess Fujita took away his "warrior spirit".

10-03-2000, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bau13 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 390 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'd like to see you fight Fujita __________________ Everything happens for a reason...

10-03-2000, 06:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hawk Master Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,081 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ken was having major problems training for this fight. From what I heard out of Dallas he was having dizzy spells in training and many of his guys were worried about him. The confidential word was if Ken didn't finish him quick, he'd lose. I found this out right before they flew out for Japan. I promised not to say anything until after it was over and will not give out my source of information because I don't want to cause him problems with Ken, but Shamrock had dire physical problems before he left. In the shape I heard he was in, which obviously was straight stuff, Ken was crazy to get in the ring. Hawk __________________ You cannot run away from a weakness; Sometimes you must fight it out or perish; And if that be so; Why not now and where you stand.

10-02-2000, 08:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
E1am Advanced Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Seattle, Washington USA Posts: 706 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I saw the fight a week after it happened on the Fuji TV rebroadcast. Ken was beating the snot out of Fujita before he decided to throw in the towel. Why did he quit? Was he sick, injured, or just out of shape? Did they explain it on the US PPV broadcast? I really hope Fujita doesn't get anymore lucky wins. I'm tired of seeing Inoki's lantern jaw at ringside.

10-02-2000, 08:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ryu (non-working password Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,269 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I haven't seen it yet, but from what I heard the night of the fight Fujita started beating the hell out of Ken near the end of the bout. Didn't Fujita start connecting hard? Ryu

10-02-2000, 09:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
E1am Advanced Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Seattle, Washington USA Posts: 706 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ryu, No, Ken beat Fujita in every way. Towards the end of the fight he just tied him up and stalled. But Fujita wasn't doing anything. After the towel was thrown in Fujita was asking him why he stopped. He looked more surprised than anyone. Ken seemed to just totally gas out. But maybe he broke his hand or something. MA, Did you see the fight? Before I saw it I thought maybe it was a work. But after seeing it I'd have to say that the only way it was a work is if Ken forgot that it was supposed to be a fake fight and then suddenly remembered and thew in the towel to avoid knocking him out.

10-02-2000, 10:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fujita's mouthpiece fell out from the force of Ken's blows! No way it can be a work. He gassed plain and simple. Ken even said so on Eyada. Ken WAS dominating the fight, then as the fight progressed, his shots got a little bit weaker. Then towards the end, he just gave up and hung on.

10-03-2000, 08:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
Quad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 44 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	It looks like a heart failure, because he was rushed to the hospital after that.

10-03-2000, 01:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ronin Guest Posts: n/a	It was a failure of heart, that's for sure. Ken admitted on eYada that he wasn't prepared. He gave up. I don't know why he didn't go to the mat with Fujita. The guy barely has more submission skill than I do.

10-03-2000, 02:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ronin Guest Posts: n/a	Bau13: I knew some wise-ass would take exception to that comment. I didn't say I could TAP Fujita, and he IS a goddamn monster, but that doesn't make him an elite submission fighter. Yes, he's better than me. Any halfway-decent NHB fighter damn well ought to be. You may now resume your Thought-policing activities.

10-03-2000, 07:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ronin Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Hawk: That puts a whole different slant on things! Especially coming from a "Gracie-worshipper" like yourself! Thanks for the inside info.

10-03-2000, 11:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zhoozhitsu Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,154 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That was no worked fight. Kenny shot his wad and was left w/ nothing at the end of round 1. Pure & simple. He was throwing bombs on Fujita all night. Fujita's only skill seems to be taking punishment like some old junkyard dog. His main expertise is in blocking punches & kicks w/ his face. I can't believe he is given the respect that he is by so many. __________________ - Brian ------- "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you," Trotsky

10-04-2000, 11:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
whodashoe Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: London England Posts: 15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	when i was reading the play by play coverage on the underground it sounded like a work, they said "kens hitting him hard........BUT OH NO!!! the punches have no effect, fujita's asking for more!!!" so i had my suspicions....but then i saw the match, ken does rock fujita with some huge punches, no way was that a work, I think although ken has now improved his striking so he is now a good striker, he has not had much of a chance to use the striking in a match so when he did he gassed, simple as that. or i hope so........i hate works. __________________ ASK GRIEVES

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