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Kind of funny all the BJJ put downs and BS on this board, I wonder how many people actually have went to a BJJ studio and trained? The guys that have and do, they KNOW damn well how badass it is, those that havent are either bitter about it or just jeaous I guess, but I would say a purple in BJJ has 10 times the skill of a Black in anything else, including judo (though Judo blacks can throw the shit outta you, as Ive been sent sailing through the gym, but they cant finish).
If you havent tried it, go into a studio and see for yourself, Boarspear that includes you. |
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I train BJJ. I think its great for ground, But it's only one part of the arsenal.
I will not neglect standup just because I train BJJ. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if you train in this or that. It comes down to what you can do when you need to. Training in a system no matter how good or bad cannot change that. More train less talk, is something i've been saying a lot lately to a few students that have come in.
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[quote=OmaPlata]but I would say a purple in BJJ has 10 times the skill of a Black in anything else, including judo (though Judo blacks can throw the shit outta you, as Ive been sent sailing through the gym, but they cant finish).
QUOTE] What do you mean a judo guy can't finish. You let that judo guy do the same throw to you that "sent you sailing through the gym" on concrete and we will see if you get up. But the best part is if you get up a black belt in judo will probably do the same damn thing to you again. Sounds like a hell of a finish to me. Bjj is great. Bjj is one of the worst stand alone arts for self defense though. You can't dispute that. I train in BJJ. Though I don't have alot of experience when it comes to bjj. I know from what I have seen, heard and experienced most BJJ schools don't practice takedowns or throws much. I for one would not start off a fight by trying to go to the ground with somebody. And that is what bjj teaches. If you buy a bjj book of course it has self defense techniques in it and a few strikes but how many times have you practiced that stuff at your school. |
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i train in bjj currently. im only a whitebelt. bjj is an awesome art no doubt, but it isnt the best art ever, or the be all end all as some claim it is. as excessive said, its only one part of the aresenal. it shouldnt be your only focus, however it shouldnt be neglected either.
all grappling arts are awesome, because they all have u training vs resisting partners. so in the end, whatever ur grappling style is, ur going to learn to apply its techniques to resisting people in the heat of the moment. this is why grappling in general is good, regardless of the particular style. one problem i have with many bjj schools right now is the intense focus on competitions. my instructor is great and our program is good, however we focus on competition techniques way too much in my humble opinion. whenever we are going over techniques in class, people always bring up how many points u can score with the technique or whatnot. its all about getting the points in competition. this really conflicts with my interests in training because im training strictly for self defense. the last thing i care about is how many points i can score with a technique. as bjj gets more and more popular it seems as if more bjj schools are focusing entirely on doing well in competitions and not self defense. |
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[You let that judo guy do the same throw to you that "sent you sailing through the gym" on concrete and we will see if you get up.]
Exactly, I was "letting" him throw me, it was practice. I also tapped him out when we grappled, though at times he crushed me with his 250-260lb fat strong body. But I wouldnt want anything to do with a Judo black belt in a street fight, nor a BJJ black, either will kill me, well, least the BJJ guy for sure |
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..but I might sign up tomorrow.
What can I expect to learn?.. What should I be trying to get out of my first 6 month's?
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I train BJJ, just throwing that out there.
What you should expect for the first 6 months.. hmm to spend a whole bunch of classes tapping your ass off, and going home feeling like your limbs have just been torn off etc.. thats really what it is, I'm in the middle of it. However after your 6 months.. or probably even 3... the new guy, not you because youve had 3 months but the new guy, one day you will get paired up with him... and then with only your 3 months... you'll be able to dominate the guy... In 6 months you will learn alot compared to the average person, but you will still get your ass kicked by 95% of the school.
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I don't post too often. Not enough real intelligent stuff to comment on..but I figured I'll go ahead and get sucked in to this one..
I've been training in BJJ under the Machados for 7 years. When you train in BJJ at a real school and stick with it...all these silly arguments become moot. Over the last 7 years, I've seen 100's of various martial arts guys come in to give BJJ a "try". I've rolled with Sambo, Judo, Aikido, blackbelts literally hundreds of times. Also we have Thai boxing classes 4 times a week, but not a single thai boxing student would miss jiu-jitsu for thai boxing. Even the Thai instructor admits that he wouldn't last 30 sec. on the mat. We also still have an occasional challenge match. The last one, we had one of our white belts handle. No big deal. The incredible broad range of perspective fighting all types of opponents and body styles is one of the main things that makes BJJ so revered. There is an old saying .."only a fighter knows the feeling". I remember 7 years ago, I watched a well known bjj blackbelt handle a much larger equally well known wrestler. I believed at that time that it must simply have been the overwhelming amount of experience, rolling with so many people for so many years that allowed him to dominate and submit such a monstrous foe. It was then that I let go of my ego and my attachments to previous training accomplishments and dedicated myself to the 10 year plan. Well, Its been 7 years and I still believe in my decision. BJJ is amazing. So, as Kid Peligro always says, "Now go train Jiu-jitsu!"
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BJJ is great. The only BJJers who bug me are those who think jumping guard, starting from the knees and using flying triangles are valid options for the street.
But who cares what people think? There is no need to boast or get into tired debates that BJJ can beat X martial art. If you can use it and prove it when you need to survive, then that should speak for the art itself. BTW my dad can beat up your dad.
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I'm a blue belt. I'm happy with what I'm learned and what I can do, and absolutely awed and amazed at the range of ability that exists above me, and how much I can hope to learn in time.
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