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Old 11-20-2005, 03:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm sorry I missed it (had to work). Is it going to be re-aired anytime soon?
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it was known that jim carey would win
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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i thought nate was hurt pretty bad when he stiffened up like that ....one of the most dramatic KO's ive seen yet.
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roy jones jr. stiffened up like that one of the times he got knocked out. why do ppl do that? I think it's far more funny when you can hear them snoring than when they stiffen up. Both at the same time would be a hoot though.
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Guess I cannot say I am surprised, nate just doesnt have the experience to fight someone of rich's calibre. The fight against lodune kincaid was really well fought though. He was calm and picked all his shots, plus that slow motion of his body shot looked like it hurt like hell. He outboxed lodune untill the ref stopped it, outclassed the hell out of kincaid. But again Franklin was just too good for him at this point in his career, he's only been training for 5 years.

If he hadn't been injured on Ultimate fighter, he would have won his div easily over diego.
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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no way dude.....even though hes from team quest his grappling is no where near diego's......nate got beat down by gustavo machado who is no where near the mma grappler diego is.Nate is a very good stand up fighter but diego would of took him down with ease and punched and elbowed his lights out..or choke em out pretty much whatever he wanted.
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no way dude.....even though hes from team quest his grappling is no where near diego's......nate got beat down by gustavo machado who is no where near the mma grappler diego is.Nate is a very good stand up fighter but diego would of took him down with ease and punched and elbowed his lights out..or choke em out pretty much whatever he wanted.

For %100 sure Diego would totally spank and own nate, its not even debatable, nor was it Nate and Rich, Nates a joke.
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Rich was actually my high school teacher at Oak Hills in Cincy. He always used to tell us stories of his cage fights before he ever made it to the ufc, the man is a beast, I would never doubt him, especially considering his 21-1-0 record!
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Rich was actually my high school teacher at Oak Hills in Cincy. He always used to tell us stories of his cage fights before he ever made it to cincy, the man is a beast, I would never doubt him, especially considering his 21-1-0 record!

he sure doesnt look like a fighter
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I don't know, Bruce Lee only weighed 135 and he didn't look like a a fighter either. However he is probably the greatest fighter to ever live. I can see what your saying but I guess its really the style that makes you a fighter, and the training, not the looks.
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Bruce Lee was not the greatest fighter ever. He wasn't even the best fighter of his time.

What evidence do you base your statement on, anyway? His flawless record in open-challenge matches? His numerous martial arts championships and titles? Or his movies?
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Rich was actually my high school teacher at Oak Hills in Cincy. He always used to tell us stories of his cage fights before he ever made it to cincy, the man is a beast, I would never doubt him, especially considering his 21-1-0 record!
that's awesome he's a good fighter and seems like a good man.
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Bruce Lee was not the greatest fighter ever. He wasn't even the best fighter of his time.

What evidence do you base your statement on, anyway? His flawless record in open-challenge matches? His numerous martial arts championships and titles? Or his movies?
No, I base it on his dedication, his training, and his mindset. He was truly a fighter, he wasn't out fighting to impress people, he was fighting because he loved it. Also he does have many amazing feats that have yet to be topped. It's the attitude that makes you a fighter, anyone can throw down, its dicipline, training, and just plain love of the sport that makes you a fighter.
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But that doesn't make him the greatest fighter of all time.

Look, he trained a lot of martial arts, came up with his own philosophy and modified techniques, trained some famous people like Kareem Abdul Jabaar, and made some movies. Great.

What are some of his "feats" that have never been topped? I think you're confusing "fighter" with "martial arts practitioner." If you want to call Bruce Lee the greatest martial arts practitioner of all time, so be it. By all accounts, though, he did very little actual *fighting*, so let's be very precise about how we're using our terms here. Ali, Graziano, maybe there you're on the right track for best FIGHTER.

By your reasoning, Jackie Chan is also the greatest fighter of all time.
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But that doesn't make him the greatest fighter of all time.

Look, he trained a lot of martial arts, came up with his own philosophy and modified techniques, trained some famous people like Kareem Abdul Jabaar, and made some movies. Great.

What are some of his "feats" that have never been topped? I think you're confusing "fighter" with "martial arts practitioner." If you want to call Bruce Lee the greatest martial arts practitioner of all time, so be it. By all accounts, though, he did very little actual *fighting*, so let's be very precise about how we're using our terms here. Ali, Graziano, maybe there you're on the right track for best FIGHTER.

By your reasoning, Jackie Chan is also the greatest fighter of all time.
You mean best Boxers not FIGHTERS.
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