The Ultimate in Martial Arts

randi · 11-26-2005, 07:35 PM

i mean from a clinch position and the guy is preparing to take you down.
as far as i know, the sprawl is for defence against a shoot from a distance only, you cant use it in a clinch coz you are already "locked up" and cant move your body much?

jubaji · 11-26-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by randi

i mean from a clinch position and the guy is preparing to take you down.
as far as i know, the sprawl is for defence against a shoot from a distance only, you cant use it in a clinch coz you are already "locked up" and cant move your body much?

Nope. A sprawl is a reaction to a shot. Wherever the shot comes from, you can react to it in a number of ways depending on the circumstance. Sprawling is one possible reaction. How you will react will depend on how he is trying to take you down (among other things). You oughta be considering how you will take him down.

OmaPlata · 11-26-2005, 10:30 PM

go watch bruce lee or chcukie baby norris......a flying kick to the head ends all take downs, van damn knows this, so does senegal

jomes · 11-27-2005, 05:39 AM

you could try throwing some knees and uppercuts from the clintch if hes winded or dazed probably wont be able to take you down.

EmptyneSs · 11-27-2005, 06:47 AM

what about pushing down on the head as he is shooting in? that was one that a mma fighter at my gym showed me. he said try to push down on the head if possible and make him turtle and step to the side so u can take his back or strike him.

OmaPlata · 11-27-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EmptyneSs

what about pushing down on the head as he is shooting in? that was one that a mma fighter at my gym showed me. he said try to push down on the head if possible and make him turtle and step to the side so u can take his back or strike him.

the proper distance to shoot in is when you are close enough to tough the opponents head....I dont think pushing the guys head who is shooting will do anything, by then he;s already got your legs and its time for some ground and pound

Bjjexpertise@be · 11-28-2005, 07:42 PM

Well it depends on what kind of takedown he's going for. Is he going for a trip? Is he doing a shot? If he's doing a shot you can still sprawl. He may be in tight but the key to defending a takedown with a sprawl is exploding with the hip and legs. Hip into him multiple times to break his posture and explode your legs back. Once his posture is gone the takedown goes with it. From there it's just a matter of preference what you wanna do.

Andrew Green · 11-29-2005, 11:55 AM

Keep him from being able to get his hips under yours, and keep your head up. If he shoots you sprawl. Work pummeling drills and learn to tie him up so he can't set up his takedown.

Your hips should be lower then his, but make sure your head stays up, and if you can get his down. If you look down you will get snapped down and land in a front headlock get a few knees and end up on your back

Eyegouge · 11-29-2005, 05:08 PM

Don't let him tie up, and if he shoots, ram your knee into his face and then if he's still driving, sprawl and hit him with tons of elbows to the brain stem or back of the head till it turns to mush gravy. Crossfacing someone with their head up on your hip is a great way to turn him off, if it's on the street and you want to use it, catch him right upside the nose, HARD, and do it over and over, with short choppy strikes with lots of followthrough.

11-26-2005, 07:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
randi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	how do you defend against a takedown? i mean from a clinch position and the guy is preparing to take you down. as far as i know, the sprawl is for defence against a shoot from a distance only, you cant use it in a clinch coz you are already "locked up" and cant move your body much? __________________

11-28-2005, 07:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bjjexpertise@be Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: florida Posts: 2,023 Groans: 4 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Well it depends on what kind of takedown he's going for. Is he going for a trip? Is he doing a shot? If he's doing a shot you can still sprawl. He may be in tight but the key to defending a takedown with a sprawl is exploding with the hip and legs. Hip into him multiple times to break his posture and explode your legs back. Once his posture is gone the takedown goes with it. From there it's just a matter of preference what you wanna do. __________________ Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!! 45563 Pushups Completed 45563 Situps Completed

11-29-2005, 05:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Eyegouge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 442 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't let him tie up, and if he shoots, ram your knee into his face and then if he's still driving, sprawl and hit him with tons of elbows to the brain stem or back of the head till it turns to mush gravy. Crossfacing someone with their head up on your hip is a great way to turn him off, if it's on the street and you want to use it, catch him right upside the nose, HARD, and do it over and over, with short choppy strikes with lots of followthrough. __________________

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OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,397 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	go watch bruce lee or chcukie baby norris......a flying kick to the head ends all take downs, van damn knows this, so does senegal

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jomes Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: birmingham england Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	you could try throwing some knees and uppercuts from the clintch if hes winded or dazed probably wont be able to take you down.

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EmptyneSs Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Posts: 2,116 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	what about pushing down on the head as he is shooting in? that was one that a mma fighter at my gym showed me. he said try to push down on the head if possible and make him turtle and step to the side so u can take his back or strike him.

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Andrew Green Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 12 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Keep him from being able to get his hips under yours, and keep your head up. If he shoots you sprawl. Work pummeling drills and learn to tie him up so he can't set up his takedown. Your hips should be lower then his, but make sure your head stays up, and if you can get his down. If you look down you will get snapped down and land in a front headlock get a few knees and end up on your back

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