The Ultimate in Martial Arts

kiddbjj · 11-26-2005, 10:01 PM

http://drummania.pri.ee/wt/video/koo...tournament.wmv

i finally found a clip of wc people actually sparring!

what do you think?

kiddbjj · 11-26-2005, 10:12 PM

here's the address for the video page

http://www.meihua.ee/ru/video

look for the ones with Koong Sao in the title. there the competition clips.
quite full on too. check out the second from the top (the new one). there ground game sucks but they go hard with the chain punching.

FINALLY a chance so see WC being used. you can always count on those crazy Europeans

**Hardball** · 11-26-2005, 11:34 PM

Only thing that looked like wing chun was the stance. They missed a lot of opportunities for sweeps instead they went for the hip throws. Entertaining little clip.

danfaggella · 11-27-2005, 01:27 AM

^I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME

looked decent though, pretty rough

Eyegouge · 11-27-2005, 01:19 PM

I've seen better stand up and traping from my 55 year old mom. lol. it's just apeshit punching with basic JJ. I've seen people with no training hit harder. What did those guys weigh? 130 lbs? You gotta be kidding me. One of these days when I can afford a video camera that has a port to upload onto my comp, I'll post up some much better shit. Keep it coming though, I like these clips.

those guys thai skills were decent, the knees one of em threw were pretty tough. Enjoyed that.

danfaggella · 11-27-2005, 02:29 PM

DEFINITELY film some stuff and post it.

Jamie"Spitfire" · 11-27-2005, 02:29 PM

cool clips, were these guys just beginers? they looked kinda new to allout fighting. The guy that got the knee didnt look to happy lol.

kiddbjj · 11-29-2005, 10:08 PM

glad you enjoyed the clips guys. i've really been trying to find wing tsun sparring clips but its so damn hard compared to muay thai, bjj etc.
i have heard of these wt tornaments but only found those clips recently. apparently theres some guy in europe that is having success in vale tudo style matches using wing tsun but i cant find a clip.

anybody got some others? there not pretty but, look, in my opinion if you spar with that level of contact and that level of freedom from restrictions then it can only improve your self defence ability.

pstevens · 11-30-2005, 10:18 AM

What the heck?! Is WC trying to be MT, BJJ, wrestling and Judo all at once now?! There was barely any WC to speak of. See, that's the thing with these "traditional" arts... They drill and teach you all this "stuff" and when their guys finally go at it, it looks like apeshit. In contrast, boxing, MT, Judo, BJJ and other more effective arts use the same techniques that are drilled.

Personally, I woudn't subscribe to this gym or type of training. At one point, one guy had the other guy mounted and continued to rain down punches. The referee, who I assume is an instructor, made no attempt to stop the fight... Full contact sparring needs to stop the moment someone is in danger of permanent injury. Also, I think the guys in the video have little or no technique and the training is only enhancing poor technique.

OmaPlata · 11-30-2005, 11:41 AM

I saw no ground game at all,. once it hit the ground, the fight was over. there was one heel hook I saw though. i think i would kill anyone of those guys in the vid with ease, one could only hope to face one of them in a street fight. i could take 2 or 3 of them at once

ddrive · 11-30-2005, 11:44 AM

Personally, I enjoyed this clip because it's good to see wc people finally get out of the chi-sau, fist over fist drills, and one step sparring to actually bring it to the ring. Just like the UFC, the tournaments will steadily improve. In addtion, masters like augustine fong, are combining wc with styles like mt and bjj to make their students into complete fighters. I wish them all the best!

gabbah · 11-30-2005, 12:09 PM

yeah but did they actually use any wing tsun principles?? I saw them using the wing tsun stance at one point, but that was before they were close enough to even kick. When they got close I saw no recemblence to wing tsun any more.

blitz · 11-30-2005, 01:35 PM

One step at a time

Those guys weren't that good but maybe the good wing chun students could take the habit of sparring and well see how good they do

medic06 · 11-30-2005, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

I saw no ground game at all,. once it hit the ground, the fight was over. there was one heel hook I saw though. i think i would kill anyone of those guys in the vid with ease, one could only hope to face one of them in a street fight. i could take 2 or 3 of them at once

really? So when are you going to post your vid? I want to see a real badass in action.

Andrew WA · 12-01-2005, 08:44 AM

I love the clip where the guy is lying on the ground and the other guy is standing up but kicking him in the face over and over hahahaha!

11-26-2005, 10:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
kiddbjj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 248 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	wing chun tournament clip! FINALLY FOUND ONE! http://drummania.pri.ee/wt/video/koo...tournament.wmv i finally found a clip of wc people actually sparring! what do you think?

11-26-2005, 11:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,791 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Only thing that looked like wing chun was the stance. They missed a lot of opportunities for sweeps instead they went for the hip throws. Entertaining little clip. __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Calendar year 2009 Crunch Challenge. 39,800/73,000 Calendar Year 2008 Final Crunches 54,000

11-27-2005, 01:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Eyegouge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 442 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've seen better stand up and traping from my 55 year old mom. lol. it's just apeshit punching with basic JJ. I've seen people with no training hit harder. What did those guys weigh? 130 lbs? You gotta be kidding me. One of these days when I can afford a video camera that has a port to upload onto my comp, I'll post up some much better shit. Keep it coming though, I like these clips. those guys thai skills were decent, the knees one of em threw were pretty tough. Enjoyed that. __________________

11-27-2005, 02:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jamie"Spitfire" Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: scotland Posts: 57 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	cool clips, were these guys just beginers? they looked kinda new to allout fighting. The guy that got the knee didnt look to happy lol. __________________ Objective defines method Method never defines Objective

11-30-2005, 11:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
ddrive Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 245 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I like this clip. Personally, I enjoyed this clip because it's good to see wc people finally get out of the chi-sau, fist over fist drills, and one step sparring to actually bring it to the ring. Just like the UFC, the tournaments will steadily improve. In addtion, masters like augustine fong, are combining wc with styles like mt and bjj to make their students into complete fighters. I wish them all the best! __________________ Kamikaze MMA: Innovative training and sparring products. Elite Cage Fighting: Indy's Premier MMA organization

11-26-2005, 10:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
kiddbjj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 248 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	here's the address for the video page http://www.meihua.ee/ru/video look for the ones with Koong Sao in the title. there the competition clips. quite full on too. check out the second from the top (the new one). there ground game sucks but they go hard with the chain punching. FINALLY a chance so see WC being used. you can always count on those crazy Europeans

11-27-2005, 01:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME looked decent though, pretty rough

11-27-2005, 02:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	DEFINITELY film some stuff and post it.

11-29-2005, 10:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
kiddbjj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 248 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	glad you enjoyed the clips guys. i've really been trying to find wing tsun sparring clips but its so damn hard compared to muay thai, bjj etc. i have heard of these wt tornaments but only found those clips recently. apparently theres some guy in europe that is having success in vale tudo style matches using wing tsun but i cant find a clip. anybody got some others? there not pretty but, look, in my opinion if you spar with that level of contact and that level of freedom from restrictions then it can only improve your self defence ability.

11-30-2005, 10:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
pstevens Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 461 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What the heck?! Is WC trying to be MT, BJJ, wrestling and Judo all at once now?! There was barely any WC to speak of. See, that's the thing with these "traditional" arts... They drill and teach you all this "stuff" and when their guys finally go at it, it looks like apeshit. In contrast, boxing, MT, Judo, BJJ and other more effective arts use the same techniques that are drilled. Personally, I woudn't subscribe to this gym or type of training. At one point, one guy had the other guy mounted and continued to rain down punches. The referee, who I assume is an instructor, made no attempt to stop the fight... Full contact sparring needs to stop the moment someone is in danger of permanent injury. Also, I think the guys in the video have little or no technique and the training is only enhancing poor technique.

11-30-2005, 11:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,397 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I saw no ground game at all,. once it hit the ground, the fight was over. there was one heel hook I saw though. i think i would kill anyone of those guys in the vid with ease, one could only hope to face one of them in a street fight. i could take 2 or 3 of them at once

11-30-2005, 12:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
gabbah Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 573 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah but did they actually use any wing tsun principles?? I saw them using the wing tsun stance at one point, but that was before they were close enough to even kick. When they got close I saw no recemblence to wing tsun any more.

11-30-2005, 01:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
blitz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Home Posts: 1,038 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	One step at a time Those guys weren't that good but maybe the good wing chun students could take the habit of sparring and well see how good they do __________________

12-01-2005, 08:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Andrew WA Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky, USA Posts: 254 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I love the clip where the guy is lying on the ground and the other guy is standing up but kicking him in the face over and over hahahaha! __________________ Zin-ji! Why are you so stupid?...If you hadn't let him escape...You will be executed now. Six months hard labor!

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