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COME ON! what the hell, enough with the superstars, let's see some other up and coming stars fight, let's see some more TUF seasons fights in the big time and some freakin heavyweight like frank mir vs andre. THAT would be a fight.
Whats the card for 57? who all is fighting? I don't want to pay 40 bucks to watch fuking randy and chuck fight AGAIN!
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Bull....shit..... you've gotta be kidding me, let's see one more diego fight against someone, and then a title shot. He's the only guy in his weight who is undefeated. And then if diego looses matt vs bj penn again. you're telling me mir dosent stand a chance against andre? lets see some more genki sudo? how bout a griffen vs tito fight, or vernon white?
There are so many up and commers who could freaking own. Put joe up against matt, that would be an awesome grappling match, that would be a fight for true ground game fans.
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**** yes!
of course I want to see Couture and Lidell 3, Couture beats lidells face in, shows some dominance, beats him for a bit longer, than tells Jon Mccarthy that lidell is dead... I can picture it now... and of course I want to see that... I cant believe you want to see more of (Dirty) Sanchez fight... jeez... he's horrible... he was my favorite on the first TUF but after that.. cmon... a guy who claims.. before hes ever had a real UFC fight... "I am the uncrowned welterweight champion of the world" Yeah, right... give him GSP or Hughes and watch him get utterly molested... heck feed him to sherk... better wrestling and more strength... that means Diego is fucked... better stand up too... sherk only looked bad against GSP because GSP is a giant welterweight. I'm not saying Diego lost to Diaz, but I dont think he won the fight, I dont think either of them won at that point, however I knew they were going to give it to him cause he was on top.... Joe stevenson vs matt hughes is laughable... Stevenson had enough trouble with fricking luke cummo, do you think he could stand a chance against matt... ground fight for the ages... jeez... I suppose you think Nate Quarry deserved his title shot against Rich Franklin? please tell me you dont. Forrest Griffin could fight someone, but hes not close to fighting a chuck, a randy , or a babalu... they should actually feed Griffin to Babalu.. then get Babalu to fight Chuck for the belt after Randy retires with it....
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Joe Steveson had a serious injury in his fight with Cuommo and has more skill than he displayed in his fight with Luke.
Also, I don't what criteria you're judging on to say Diego didn't beat Diaz, but since Diego was getting all the takedowns, passing the guard, getting Diaz's back, and had the closet sub with an armbar from guard I think that qualifies him as beating Diaz. People may hate Diego, but Diego is just not some flash in the pan. Forrest will fight Tito next, unfortunately, Tito will get an easy takedown and lay n pray decision or cut stoppage from elbows. Tito should be fighting guys like Travis Wiuff, Mike Van Arsdale, and Babalu. Forrest should be fighting guys like Vernon White and Marvin Eastman. Sudo fights for K-1, and Mir is facing Pe de Pano next month before Arlovski. |
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I understand Diego won according to the way they score in the UFC, I said im not sure who won the fight....
If youll notice in my previous post, the part where I said.. "I knew they were going to give it to diego"... it was clear it would go to him.. he did better according to their rules ... however.... Diego got takedowns.... you think a brown belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu is afraid to be on his back... Diaz obviously had the better striking, so it was smart for Diego to put him on his back... but still .. Diaz is fine on his back... Diego didnt have the superior position being In Diaz's gaurd... second of all... I dont know when Diego actually passed Diaz's gaurd... but if you say he did.... also, have you ever seen anyone as active, kicking, punching, and working for submissions from their gaurd... the only other person I can think of is Big Nog... according to the ufc judging criteria diego won, I knew he would before they announced the decision.... I still dont think either of them had beat the other one yet... Oh and whether or not Joe Stevenson was hurt, he should have walked through Luke cummo... Joe was my favorite after Jorge Gurgel on the show... I knew he would dominate.... but to compare him to matt hughes.. cmon..
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I want to see vitor back in the running again. I think Diego could have a chance at the title, he seems to be in control with anyone when he is on the ground. Aren't Griffin and tito training partners? Would be unlikely to see a fight between them any time soon. Would be cool too see a lawler and louiseau fight. I would put money on louiseau but would be an interesting fight none the less.
There are tons of people that haven't fought in a while, why not have some TUF 1 vs TUF 2 matches that would probably bring in some viewers. But I would like to see Liddel Couture 3, it sorta has to happen. Each of them won it once, so its sort of the best 2 out of 3. Its gotta happen one of them has to be the definite champ. |
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But either way I'd like to see more of Rashad too! , there's some serious potential in that kid, and wow he improved drastically over the show... ![]()
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Dewees fights at 185 and when he did fight at lhw he was still in the 190s so he's much too small for the lhw division.
Rashad should fight Steven Bonnar or even better Sam Hogar I think he would outstrike Sam and dominate him overall. No, Griffen and Tito have never been training partners Griffen is from GA and trains there Tito is from CA and trains there. Diego should fight Chris Lytle, Lytle is the UFC's go to 170 guy who is got enough skill to test anyone, if he defeats Lytle he can go on to bigger fish. Samurai, Diego passed Diaz's guard like twice and mounted him for a second, but was immediately put back into guard. Yes, Diaz was active from guard, but he was effective, no, throwing your legs up and being unable to even secure a high guard much less a sub is not indictative of Diaz earning a win for that. Also, like I said before, Diego's armbar from guard was closer than any sub that Diaz tried all night, not to mention, Diego getting Diaz's back a couple times. Diego dictated where the fight went and was more aggressive and closer to ending the fight. |
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Mir can take Arlovski, thats for sure. But Mir got hurt, so how he comes back from that year off is serious business,. he may have lost some timing, conditioning, all sorts of stuff. He needs a warm up fight for sure Forrest will beat down Vernon White. I think Forrest will beat Tito also. I hope he gets the chance. Diego is good, but hes young and needs some experience. In time, he will be one of the best ever. His jiu-jitsu is pretty good as displayed with Diaz. A seasoned Diego will own Hughes, actually, I think Diego could beat Hughes now, without question. Penn vs Diego would be straight up bad ass |
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