Are people becoming more open-minded???

tkd_person89 · 12-11-2005, 07:55 PM

I see less and less of Taekwondo bashing. Before it was really severe. Arrogant kickboxers and grapplers were claiming left and right about how not just TKD but all trad. arts can suck their you-know-whats.

But I don't know... maybe it's just me but you MMA guys (not trying to stereotype or offend anyone) seem to be getting more open minded and less angry against Taekwondo.

Is it just me or have you guys felt this too?

Warrior189 · 12-11-2005, 08:12 PM

Maybe they dont really care about the art and dont really want to talk about it any more or just bored "bashing" it as you say.

Warrior189 · 12-11-2005, 08:13 PM

Or they have something better to do.

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-11-2005, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkd_person89

I see less and less of Taekwondo bashing. Before it was really severe. Arrogant kickboxers and grapplers were claiming left and right about how not just TKD but all trad. arts can suck their you-know-whats.

But I don't know... maybe it's just me but you MMA guys (not trying to stereotype or offend anyone) seem to be getting more open minded and less angry against Taekwondo.

Is it just me or have you guys felt this too?

See how one person in the relentless persuit of fairness and equity for all martial arts can change the group dynamics of a forum. Congrats!! Job well done.

tkd_person89 · 12-11-2005, 08:19 PM

Thank you for the amusing sarcastic replies but I was looking for some real opinons.

Do you think people are getting more open-minded?

Warrior189 · 12-11-2005, 08:25 PM

No one is opened minded to anything. Theres people in this site n out of this site who thinks most styles are weak, or boring.

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-11-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tkd_person89

Thank you for the amusing sarcastic replies but I was looking for some real opinons.

Do you think people are getting more open-minded?

No sarcasm, honestly. Since I've been reading your threads and posts, I've made a conscious effort to try and not bash anyone or their art.

tkd_person89 · 12-11-2005, 08:39 PM

Warrior189 in particular, I don't think you are understanding my question. I didn't mean specific people in this forum. I mean people everywhere.

Warrior189 · 12-11-2005, 08:41 PM

I also side out of this site.

tkd_person89 · 12-11-2005, 08:49 PM

great. does anybody else wanna comment here...?

IPON · 12-11-2005, 08:52 PM

I don't think that's the case I think people feel the same but there is no need to discuss it since it has been discussed to death. TKD has been considered the poster child for Mc Dojangs, certainly not the only style but since it is the largest it takes the most hits. I studied TSD and hapkido an can tell you there there are plenty of weak dojangs teaching these arts as well, but since there are far fewer dojangs you won't hear the criticims

bigboywasim · 12-11-2005, 08:53 PM

Who cares what anyone says. I think that TKD can be useful and a good kick in the gut can take out anyone. It is useful and great to learn. It is the most popular martial art in US and the world as well. People like it that why they take it.

Tom Yum · 12-11-2005, 10:10 PM

TKD can be very usefull, especially if you can kick like Bill Superfoot Wallace or GM He Il Cho!

TKD is mostly kicking so if you are in a position to fight someone at kicking range, you've got an advantage. Accomplished black belts in TKD can kick very hard, very fast at about any target. They don't throw low kicks as hard as thai boxers, but they've got a side kick which they can throw as bout as fast as a boxer's jab with 3x the power.

A spinning back kick will level someone if it lands in the center of mass.

TKD lacks infighting and grappling though. Some TKD schools teach HKD or judo, which is a good suppliment.

Last but not least, real TKD fighters (and not kids trying to show-off) perfect about 3-4 kicks MAX! They don't waster their time working on 360 aerial spin kicks; they probably perfect their front leg round house, side and hook kick and maybe a spinning back kick or some variation thereof.

Its mostly the teens who try to show off by doing aerial 360 kicks and tornado style kicks. Some whiz-kids can use them in sparring, but if I'm going to spar in a non-boxing stand up format, I want to be able to throw leg kicks

tkd_person89 · 12-12-2005, 07:17 PM

It seems though that more people are not just not bashing taekwondo, but actually acknowledging its usefulness.

Eyegouge · 12-12-2005, 07:31 PM

It's cuz 3 or 4 guys in the UFC are TKD blackbelts little man. We can't bash it if our heros use it. But I'll still pick the varisty linebacker to be on my team when push comes to shove.

12-11-2005, 07:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
tkd_person89 Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 352	Are people becoming more open-minded??? I see less and less of Taekwondo bashing. Before it was really severe. Arrogant kickboxers and grapplers were claiming left and right about how not just TKD but all trad. arts can suck their you-know-whats. But I don't know... maybe it's just me but you MMA guys (not trying to stereotype or offend anyone) seem to be getting more open minded and less angry against Taekwondo. Is it just me or have you guys felt this too?

12-11-2005, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Warrior189 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bronx,NY Posts: 319	Maybe Maybe they dont really care about the art and dont really want to talk about it any more or just bored "bashing" it as you say.

12-11-2005, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Warrior189 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bronx,NY Posts: 319	Maybe Or they have something better to do.

12-11-2005, 08:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,552	I don't think that's the case I think people feel the same but there is no need to discuss it since it has been discussed to death. TKD has been considered the poster child for Mc Dojangs, certainly not the only style but since it is the largest it takes the most hits. I studied TSD and hapkido an can tell you there there are plenty of weak dojangs teaching these arts as well, but since there are far fewer dojangs you won't hear the criticims __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

12-11-2005, 10:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,174	TKD can be very usefull, especially if you can kick like Bill Superfoot Wallace or GM He Il Cho! TKD is mostly kicking so if you are in a position to fight someone at kicking range, you've got an advantage. Accomplished black belts in TKD can kick very hard, very fast at about any target. They don't throw low kicks as hard as thai boxers, but they've got a side kick which they can throw as bout as fast as a boxer's jab with 3x the power. A spinning back kick will level someone if it lands in the center of mass. TKD lacks infighting and grappling though. Some TKD schools teach HKD or judo, which is a good suppliment. Last but not least, real TKD fighters (and not kids trying to show-off) perfect about 3-4 kicks MAX! They don't waster their time working on 360 aerial spin kicks; they probably perfect their front leg round house, side and hook kick and maybe a spinning back kick or some variation thereof. Its mostly the teens who try to show off by doing aerial 360 kicks and tornado style kicks. Some whiz-kids can use them in sparring, but if I'm going to spar in a non-boxing stand up format, I want to be able to throw leg kicks __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it.

12-11-2005, 08:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
tkd_person89 Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 352	Thank you for the amusing sarcastic replies but I was looking for some real opinons. Do you think people are getting more open-minded?

12-11-2005, 08:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Warrior189 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bronx,NY Posts: 319	No one is opened minded to anything. Theres people in this site n out of this site who thinks most styles are weak, or boring.

12-11-2005, 08:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
tkd_person89 Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 352	Warrior189 in particular, I don't think you are understanding my question. I didn't mean specific people in this forum. I mean people everywhere.

12-11-2005, 08:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Warrior189 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bronx,NY Posts: 319	I also side out of this site.

12-11-2005, 08:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
tkd_person89 Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 352	great. does anybody else wanna comment here...?

12-11-2005, 08:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
bigboywasim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California, Sacramento Posts: 384	Who cares what anyone says. I think that TKD can be useful and a good kick in the gut can take out anyone. It is useful and great to learn. It is the most popular martial art in US and the world as well. People like it that why they take it.

12-12-2005, 07:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
tkd_person89 Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 352	It seems though that more people are not just not bashing taekwondo, but actually acknowledging its usefulness.

12-12-2005, 07:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
Eyegouge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 422	It's cuz 3 or 4 guys in the UFC are TKD blackbelts little man. We can't bash it if our heros use it. But I'll still pick the varisty linebacker to be on my team when push comes to shove. __________________

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