Need grappling to supplement striking. Judo?BJJ?

KDH · 12-17-2005, 07:41 PM

Yo wassup. I need some advice. I need a grappling art to supplement my striking skills. Which do you recommend, Judo or BJJ and why?

I understand Judo is a better standup grappling style while BJJ is a better ground grappling style. Which is more valuable?

I've been hearing things like Judo is a sport. But it is still a very much a combative martial art, no?

BJJ newaza owns Judo newaza, too i heard. True?

danfaggella · 12-17-2005, 11:21 PM

These are stereotypes based on truths. Both are valid martial arts and sports in themselves, and are useful on the street. For me, I would decide which establishment I liked the most and then decide from that.

jubaji · 12-17-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KDH

Yo wassup. I need some advice. I need a grappling art to supplement my striking skills. Which do you recommend, Judo or BJJ and why?
?

Neither. You need wrestling.

treehugger · 12-17-2005, 11:57 PM

don't listen to that nonsense. Wrestling provides no submission holds, which are exactly what you need. Wrestling is great for takedowns and positioning, but the juice is in the subs. If you can, train at a MMA club that combines bjj with wrestling or judo takedowns and some striking.

KDH · 12-18-2005, 12:06 AM

i prefer to combine stuff myself.

jubaji · 12-18-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by treehugger

don't listen to that nonsense.

Always listen to my nonsense. What you need to make use of your striking skills while getting the most of a grappling exchange is positional control and the ability to takedown an opponent when you want to and to avoid same when its not in your best interests.

eXcessiveForce · 12-18-2005, 01:48 AM

KDH you have asked this same thing before. I already told you koreans don't need anything but TKD

Eyegouge · 12-18-2005, 01:23 PM

if you want to be able to put someone in a hurt lock and a really bad position to be stomped on by your friends....wrestle....or if your fighting girls....

Just G · 12-18-2005, 02:02 PM

If your opponent has a Gi on judo has many more throws. No gi Bjj or wrestling are your best bet.

bigboywasim · 12-18-2005, 08:06 PM

I love all three but I don't think you can take them all. BJJ is the best from the three in my opinion for a solid grappling art. It has moves from wrestling and Judo some you get the best of both worlds. I think with wrestling it is even more deadly. Pick BJJ from the three and do some wrestling as well. In high school wrestling is free if they have it and in college usually as well or for small price so it shouldn't be that much of a problem.

12-17-2005, 07:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
KDH Guest Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 79 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need grappling to supplement striking. Judo?BJJ? Yo wassup. I need some advice. I need a grappling art to supplement my striking skills. Which do you recommend, Judo or BJJ and why? I understand Judo is a better standup grappling style while BJJ is a better ground grappling style. Which is more valuable? I've been hearing things like Judo is a sport. But it is still a very much a combative martial art, no? BJJ newaza owns Judo newaza, too i heard. True?

12-18-2005, 01:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,906 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	KDH you have asked this same thing before. I already told you koreans don't need anything but TKD __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive. www.b-prime.com A success and achievement community

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Eyegouge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 422 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	if you want to be able to put someone in a hurt lock and a really bad position to be stomped on by your friends....wrestle....or if your fighting girls.... __________________

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danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	These are stereotypes based on truths. Both are valid martial arts and sports in themselves, and are useful on the street. For me, I would decide which establishment I liked the most and then decide from that.

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treehugger Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 64 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	don't listen to that nonsense. Wrestling provides no submission holds, which are exactly what you need. Wrestling is great for takedowns and positioning, but the juice is in the subs. If you can, train at a MMA club that combines bjj with wrestling or judo takedowns and some striking.

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KDH Guest Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 79 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i prefer to combine stuff myself.

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Just G Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If your opponent has a Gi on judo has many more throws. No gi Bjj or wrestling are your best bet.

12-18-2005, 08:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
bigboywasim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California, Sacramento Posts: 392 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I love all three but I don't think you can take them all. BJJ is the best from the three in my opinion for a solid grappling art. It has moves from wrestling and Judo some you get the best of both worlds. I think with wrestling it is even more deadly. Pick BJJ from the three and do some wrestling as well. In high school wrestling is free if they have it and in college usually as well or for small price so it shouldn't be that much of a problem.

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