Royce

[pstevens]

Originally Posted by shadowkiller

Ah once again you fall back on your hard won "dirty words" I salute you......

Much obliged...

[blitz]

Originally Posted by shadowkiller

It was addressed for one instance yes. The final round fight, but he did it to every one of the guys he was fighting.

If you watch Ultimate Royce Gracie youll know what I'm talking about. Watch it and until then don't diss someone you don't know. The refs were basically retarded, lots of the competitors tried to cheat in some way, even Ken Shamrock who is one of the most respected fighters these days.

[gabbah]

Originally Posted by blitz

If you watch Ultimate Royce Gracie youll know what I'm talking about. Watch it and until then don't diss someone you don't know. The refs were basically retarded, lots of the competitors tried to cheat in some way, even Ken Shamrock who is one of the most respected fighters these days.

I'll second that.

[blitz]

Originally Posted by Hardball

Please post the link when you get a chance. Thanks.

I downloaded it from a P2P program called Ares, limewire also has 2-3 matches for him.

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by IPON

Royce always complained about time limits. But it raises a question


In Royce's defense I think people should realize that the original UFC had no weight classes but also was tournament style so there may have been as many as 3 fights a night. Talk about Royce or some of the earlier competitors but I doubt you will find may of the current competitors that could handle that format

I watched a tournement the other day on Hi Def TV that was very similar to the old UFCs, it was a one night thing where you had to beat 4 fighters to win the thing., Babalu won beating out some very very very good including Shogun, Jeremy Horn and some BJJ guy that just won the worlds. For MMA I think that format is the best, fight multilple times a night, beat multiple guys, and youre the best. Babalu is the best right now I say, all around, he needs to fight Liddell again and show the KO was a fluke

[CHOKE UK]

Agreed - well said.

When we say Gracie j.j.
We are not talking about Royce neccessarily, nor any other gracie individually!

What people must understand is that we are talking about gracie j.j.

The fact that they worked and and improved this system which turned out to be one of the most important parts of unarmed combat.

When the rest of the world all insisted that their martial arts were the most effective in a real life unarmed combat situation.

the early UFC's were the real acid test of this and gracie j.j. proved it was the missing link.

They were the pioneers, they led the way!

And thats why the Gracies are so admired!

What they knew many decades ago has been copied, stolen and added to by others - hence the situation we have now.

We must not get confused with individual and the art.

They have given more to mma than anyone!

I know I have been in real situations -
when I have used and been thankful for the Gracie j.j. skills they teach!

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by CHOKE UK

I know I have been in real situations -
when I have used and been thankful for the Gracie j.j. skills they teach!

Ok tells us what happened

[CHOKE UK]

No thanks mate - I don't usually like to incrimminate myself!

But rest assured - it works!