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Old 12-22-2005, 12:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Tips and advice needed please. I have a bout.

I just recently entered a junior fighters tournament. I take Taekwondo and out of the many divisions, I entered the kickboxing division (not muay thai).

Can anyone offer this TKD practitioner some strategies, pointers, and advice on how to beat kickboxers? It'd be much appreciated. What would I need to do well?

As a TKD practitioner, I woudl certainly have the long range advantage, no?

Oh and by the way, rules are as follows: No shots below the waist, no clinch, or kneeing

So basically regular, American Kickb. rules.

Thanks guys
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Make sure your cardio is up to measure before the fight. Keep your hands up. Good luck!
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I just recently entered a junior fighters tournament. I take Taekwondo and out of the many divisions, I entered the kickboxing division (not muay thai).

Can anyone offer this TKD practitioner some strategies, pointers, and advice on how to beat kickboxers? It'd be much appreciated. What would I need to do well?

As a TKD practitioner, I woudl certainly have the long range advantage, no?

Oh and by the way, rules are as follows: No shots below the waist, no clinch, or kneeing

So basically regular, American Kickb. rules.

Thanks guys

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Good luck my friend it will be a challenge I tell you this much. If you been taking TKD for a good while it is ok but if you kind of new to it then I can't say. Let me tell you what I would do. Keep the guy away. You side kicks and other kicks that kickboxer has no clue how to defend. Don't do no fly kick or fancy shit. Keep your hand up all times. If the guy gets close move back and do whatever you can. Don't be afraid to punch as well if the guy comes close. It will be very hard because kickboxers are better boxers than MT guys so it will really hurt close range. Good Luck
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I just recently entered a junior fighters tournament. I take Taekwondo and out of the many divisions, I entered the kickboxing division (not muay thai).

Can anyone offer this TKD practitioner some strategies, pointers, and advice on how to beat kickboxers? It'd be much appreciated. What would I need to do well?

As a TKD practitioner, I woudl certainly have the long range advantage, no?

Oh and by the way, rules are as follows: No shots below the waist, no clinch, or kneeing

So basically regular, American Kickb. rules.

Thanks guys
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Jubaji summed it up pretty well hehe.
Watch those kicks to your leg, if they conenct they hurt like a bitch.
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Learn how to box...you're gonna need it.
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I don't think he is doomed at all. Certainly you'll have to work on avoiding the punches and working some good kicks, but if nothing else you will learn a lot. Be awake that most american KB guys are more agressive than your average TKD fellows.
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I can see it now... By this time next week, we will be hearing how TKD defeated all comers...
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I can see it now... By this time next week, we will be hearing how TKD defeated all comers...
Yep, I can hear it now...

"I entered the ring and did my best back-spinning-heel-hook-kick-of-death and took out all 10 of my upcoming opponents. I was crowned "King of the Death Match". I have now created my own style and declared myself Great-Great-Great-GrandMaster of all knowingness. I am now accepting students, $200/month with a 10 year contract, which includes ATA membership!"
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For crying out loud. I dislike the majority of the TKD places I've ever seen, but I'm not going to hate the art itself just for being watered down and americanized. I think it has some validity to it and I never said TKD would destroy all comers, I didn't say anything of that kind. However, its a bit unfair to assume just because the guy does TKD that he will automatically be anialated.
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Wow a lot of the people here are quite hostile for absolutely no reason. I guess they must not know what they're talking about if they are so eager to dismiss TKD. American kickboxing is just karate plus punching. No better than TKD.

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Don "the dragon" Wilson started out kicking a lot. When they asked him in an interview (years ago) why he perfered to kick than punch. His reponse was something like, "I had to kick because I really didn't know how to box that good, so I kept them away with my kicks". He started to add (get better) at boxing and later became a champion. The fact is, TKD is a great art when it comes to kicking and not boxing. Learn some boxing (strong basics) and, as someone else said, keep him away with your kicks. Strike him strong roundhouses, sidekicks, and I think you may be able to throw in a spiining back kick to the stomach. You can win with kicksBut need to add the boxing! That and I hope you have a heavy bag to train with. That or a least a kickshield with a strong partner.
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Kick for 3 mins. / push ups 1 min. / kick 3 min. / push ups 1 min.
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Or don't register a bunch of different accounts and say it over and over and over, right?
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You guys should be more mature than to be this rude to this guy. He's entering a competition and is asking for some advice, and what do you guys give him? I don't think he did anything to deserv that kind of treatment (at least not in this thread).

So anyway here is my advice KDH. I train kickboxing, so I should be able to give some pointers.
First off, kickboxers are more "open" as you TKD guys would say, meaning our stance is more square. So spinning back kicks will work. Watch his reaction the first time you throw it. If you see him bringing his hands down, or tucking his elbows to defend the kick to his stomach, you can be damn sure he will react the same way each time. So start combining it with spinning heel kick to his head. Normal sidekicks will also work.
He will probably want to get close to you to hammer on you with punches, so you will need good footwork to kick then step back/side, then repeat. So kick him HARD each time he comes into YOUR range, then move back again with good balance, preparing for the next repetition of this.
Like people said, keep your hand up when he is close enough to kick (and punch obviously), you can bring them down to rest when you're further away, just remember to put them up again.

Now, I hope you have a hard left AND right roundhouse kick. Watch his hands, when he steps in to jab you, you kick his left side (where he's open since he's jabbing). If he wants to throw a right cross at you, you kick the other side. You will have to kick as soon as you see a movement, otherwise it's too late. If you do this right a few times, he will be afraid to punch you, because that will leave his sides open. Remember to step back/side after each kick you land.

Those are my pointers. I'm not sure exactly how you guys pull of a powerful roundhouse with your stance. Personally I have basically a muay thai stance and my kicks are only muay thai. They do teach others as well in my gym, but I find them too weak for actual use in the ring. I don't kick or punch for points, and don't expect my opponent to either. To that we train western boxing.
So when you kick, kick fucking hard. He has to respect your kicks, otherwise your fucked. So give those hips as much rotation as you can.

Oh and another tip. If he just keeps his elbows tucked and seems solid when you kick him in the waist, you will have to kick him hard in the head. This will lift his guard up, opening up the sides.
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