Is Boxing Underestimated?

[Testosterone]

Thanks for the replies guys .

Do you guys feel that boxing and BJJ would make for a well-rounded fighter?

[treehugger]

Originally Posted by Testosterone

Thanks for the replies guys .

Do you guys feel that boxing and BJJ would make for a well-rounded fighter?

Absolutely, without a doubt!

[Aikiguy]

So ... if I were to ignore the Straight Blast Gym that's about 5 minutes from my house, I'd be crazy, right?

[Tant01]

SBG will hook you up...

So, what are you waiting for?

[Tant01]

..................Christmas?

[Aikiguy]

There are two things: money (it's a little tight given the season) and, well, I'm a wuss. I don't mind training hard but I don't want to start too quickly and end up hurting myself by going too hard too soon. (I paid a visit to the gym ... they don't screw around)

The money thing is the real problem right now, though.

[Tant01]

Good on ya!

Tell them your situation, if you're willing to swab the mats, sweep floors and sanitize the restrooms for a break on the tuition? It never hurts to ask...


Not saying they'll deal but if you've got motivation others lack it will make you stand out, even if you're a wuss...


All the best.

[treehugger]

Originally Posted by Aikiguy

There are two things: money (it's a little tight given the season) and, well, I'm a wuss. I don't mind training hard but I don't want to start too quickly and end up hurting myself by going too hard too soon. (I paid a visit to the gym ... they don't screw around)

The money thing is the real problem right now, though.

Don't worry at all about the wuss part, if you weren't a little nervous about joining a fight club you would be abnormal. I was nervous as hell the first time I went. You will find the guys there will go easy with you at the start and will be extremely nice to you (they get an extra training partner if you stick with it, so they want you there, believe me). I think it must have something to do with all the agression that gets let out in training, but fighters tend to be some of the nicest guys around in my opinion. Money is another thing. I decided I would spend less on other forms of entertainment (movies, clubs, toys, etc) to make room for it and have not regretted my decision. I gave up on my regular gym membership too and now just do bodyweight exercises and dumbell work at home to supplement the training. That saved me 50 bucks a month alone.

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by treehugger

Don't worry at all about the "wuss" part, if you weren't a little nervous about joining a fight club you would be abnormal. .......

yeah, take it personal, get mad, get fighting mad.


I'm a wuss too. That's why I'm always armed. Those big MMA freaks scare the hell out of me!

[Sensei Saki]

Aha. Is that a command?
A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly.Ayuh. Really always?

I don't know anyone named armed.All of them?Who is the best robot?

[Tant01]

Saki Sensei, are you stalking me?

[Shoot]

Boxing is underestimated by many TMArtists. Traditionally TMArtists had a bias against boxing and favored kicking. Now its Muay Thai. The fact is that boxing skills have served men well in real fights for centuries. The fact is that when it comes to striking punches are the highest percentage successful technique. In other words, punching often determines the outcome. This is especially true in cramped quarters out there in the real world. The key is staying on your feet. Boxing originated as a self defense system. You can use the same punches with open palms. The theory behind boxing is that a straight thrust is the hardest to defend against. The jab creates an opening. The cross finishes the fight when properly landed. Kicks weren’t included because balance was stressed in boxing to avoid takedowns. When you kick you are momentarily frozen in place and susceptible to a tackle or rush. Traditionally hooks were rarely used for the same reason. “Pure” boxing before rules emphasized two punches: jab and cross and foot work. This is an effective system in and of itself and is my personal striking protection system the “1,2.” Just add some leg kick defense and some “dirty boxing” techniques like knees and holding and punching and you got an excellent system. The simplicity and small curriculum allows you to super specialize in punching and dodging. Learn takedown avoidance and how to get off the ground and you’re good to go.

I’ll add this though. Gloves and rules changed boxing into a sport. It needs to be modified for self defense to be closer to its original form. For one the stance needs to be lower like the original crouch. This is a take down defense in and of itself. Second, quit practicing those ridiculous 5 punch combos. Those don’t work. After 2 or 3 hits the guy will be out of the way unless he’s on the ropes and going down in which case you just keep pounding 1,2,1,2,1,2. Third, don’t hit so hard that you throw off your balance. Again, original boxing was all about balance and not destroying your own balance by over committing with your punches. A punch just needs to be fast and accurate. You don’t have to act like you’re punching through an ice block. Finally, learn foot work and dodging--the art of sticking and moving. Punch and get out. Keep your feet under you and guard your center. Learn how to push a person away to create space. That’s where pushing a person before a fight came from. You push them away so you can punch them. Treat every opponent like he’s going to rush you because odds are he will.

[GpRave]

Shoot,

Great Post - I have not heard alot of people talk about boxing like that in a while. I'm a traditional jiujitsu man and an admirer of the "Old School of Boxing" meaning the likes of Jack Dempsey's falling step and Frank Brasta swinging door style...