Look, I just want some opinons on HKD hand tech.

[KDH]

All I want are some honest opinons on the hand skills of Hapkido. Unlike TKD, does HKD teach good hand work, open and closed?

TKD kick to hand ratio is like 70 -30 these days. Is HKD more like 50 -50?

I don't want the nasty comments. I understand I am disliked around here but this is a legitimate question.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by KDH

All I want are some honest opinons on the hand skills of Hapkido. Unlike TKD, does HKD teach good hand work, open and closed?

TKD kick to hand ratio is like 70 -30 these days. Is HKD more like 50 -50?

I don't want the nasty comments. I understand I am disliked around here but this is a legitimate question.

You know, you should go to Korea 'cause you will get really effective answers there. TKD is really effective. Did you know that? A lot of people don't know that, but its true. Really effective. Definately, definately effective. Yeah. Effective.

[KDH]

another useless answer.... i earnestly ask for some advice and this is what i get.

[Maxx]

My suggestion would be to go to the book store. There are some really good books that have been published on Hapkido recently. One that I would recommend would be "Hapkido: Traditions, Philosophy, Technique" by Marc Tedeschi".

Another bit of trivia, the word "Hapkido" is the Korean equivalent of Japanese Aikido and the arts supposedly have similar roots.

[KDH]

But I believe Hapkido is more effective and complete.

[eXcessiveForce]

Have you don either one?

From reading your posts it does not appear you have even seen both of them much less experienced them.

Perhaps it would be wise to actually study both for a time before deciding.

[KDH]

Can soeone please actually give me a ratio ? kick to hand?

TKD is like 70 - 30.

What about HKD? 50 - 50?

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Go to the korean martial arts section.

[KDH]

nah. don't think so

[treehugger]

Then train a style that works against resisting opponents. You will not see hapkido in the ring any time soon and there is a reason for that. Traditional martial arts are not practical fighting systems. You are in the MMA/bjj forum. Most people here do not think much of hapkido/aikido, or other TMAs. They are into fight sports like mma, bjj/judo, boxing, etc., which focus on gross motor skills as opposed to fine motor skills. These are the styles that actually work in a real altercation, not to mention they are a blast to train and compete in. Of course there is the odd jackass on this forum who will dispute this, but you should ignore them as well. Go to a MMA gym and get to work!

[KDH]

"TMAs are ineffective" ? lol you gotta be kidding me buddy

yeah i do dispute this. i don't want to here your ignorant "Bjj and MT are best" speech. don't give me that shit lol... you make me laugh

that's the problem with your bjj/mt kids today. arrogant pricks who think they're tough guys. you a tough guy, chump? open up that close mind and maybe you'd get ahead in life... oh wait. too late.

[KDH]

oh yeah and just so you know....

Jiu Jitsu, Aikido, and Hapkido guys all train with resistance, unless you're in mr.shit's crap dojo of ma.

I'm not blasting you because of your opinion on hapkido. i asked for opinions. but your comments that TMAs suck are clearly ignorant and unsubstantiated arguments.

Bruce Lee - TMA
Oyama - TMA
Sirasoni - TMA.
Hee Il Cho - Tma.

Let me know when you can beat people of their caliber.

[blitz]

And this is whats wrong with you, you base your opinion of one guy on the whole lot. So if 10 bjj practicioners shittalk you, you hate all of the bjj community, makes sense, you're bright one aren't you?
You also posted it in the wrong section of the forums, you don't accept any opinion which disagrees with yours, and your opinion is based on nothing, you ask questions and if you don't agree with the answers you answer them yourself. If you know so much about HKD being complete and stuff just study it, stop being so insecure about the arts you want to study. And man you want to study tkd/muay thai/boxing/hapkido, seriously do you think you have enough time to study everything you see?

[treehugger]

"TMAs are ineffective" ? lol you gotta be kidding me buddy

yeah i do dispute this. i don't want to here your ignorant "Bjj and MT are best" speech. don't give me that shit lol... you make me laugh

that's the problem with your bjj/mt kids today. arrogant pricks who think they're tough guys. you a tough guy, chump? open up that close mind and maybe you'd get ahead in life... oh wait. too late.

No, I am not kidding you. Please take your tkd and show up at a mma club. You will get just what you deserve, a sound beating and the best lesson you could ask for. You are kind of defensive, so I suspect that you already know this deep down, you just don't have the stones to step onto the mat and you are upset you have wasted so much time training tkd

[treehugger]

And this is whats wrong with you, you base your opinion of one guy on the whole lot. So if 10 bjj practicioners shittalk you, you hate all of the bjj community, makes sense, you're bright one aren't you?
You also posted it in the wrong section of the forums, you don't accept any opinion which disagrees with yours, and your opinion is based on nothing, you ask questions and if you don't agree with the answers you answer them yourself. If you know so much about HKD being complete and stuff just study it, stop being so insecure about the arts you want to study. And man you want to study tkd/muay thai/boxing/hapkido, seriously do you think you have enough time to study everything you see?

I was not trying to 'shittalk' anyone, unfortunatley this guy took it that way and apparently so did you. Maybe I should have just kept quiet, but I was honestly just trying to give my best advise.