The Ultimate in Martial Arts

mr.mma · 01-08-2006, 10:30 PM

I met gsp today at a seminar.

The guy is a class act. I know he will beat penn and move on to beating hughes. Hes on a role and it wont stop untill he has many title defences

mthand · 01-08-2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JkD187

I dont know what fight everyone was watching but GSP dominated Hughes(besides Hughes getting like 2 takedowns and laying and praying) GSP took Matt down with ease.. tagged him with the jab and landed a spinning back kick that sent Matt across the cage into the fence.There was less then ten seconds left on the clock and Matt was punching and decided to go for the armbar...GSP's corner told him, that time was going to run out and to let Hughes get it so he dosn't waste any energy....the corner had the wrong time(off by 1 second) and thats why GSP had to tap out at the bell.Hughes got very very lucky in that fight.Its been Officially signed that GSP will now face BJ at UFC 58 for the number one contendership of the paper belt Hughes holds.

I liked GSPs performance in that fight. But he got caught and he lost, no matter what the excuses. What kind of strategy were they thinking of, when we know that defending a arm bar is just as exhausting as applying it. I am not a fan of Hughes, but when fighting in a ring as a skilled fighter, there is no such thing as good luck. It should be all skill. And if you lose, just accept the fact that you need to work on your skills and improve. In the case of GSP, he under estimated Hughes. Never under estimate any opponent. Especially someone like Huges, who knows that his weakness was BJJ, but as a champion he went on training JJ to improve his game. He had no excuses when he lost to BJ. But worked on his weakness and look what he did to GSP.

JkD187 · 01-09-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mthand

I liked GSPs performance in that fight. But he got caught and he lost, no matter what the excuses. What kind of strategy were they thinking of, when we know that defending a arm bar is just as exhausting as applying it. I am not a fan of Hughes, but when fighting in a ring as a skilled fighter, there is no such thing as good luck. It should be all skill. And if you lose, just accept the fact that you need to work on your skills and improve. In the case of GSP, he under estimated Hughes. Never under estimate any opponent. Especially someone like Huges, who knows that his weakness was BJJ, but as a champion he went on training JJ to improve his game. He had no excuses when he lost to BJ. But worked on his weakness and look what he did to GSP.

Actually he did admit that he made that mistake and promised never to do it again.Also he stated that he gave Hughes to much respect....not underestimated him he overestamated him.Even Matt Hughes himself said that he got lucky to win that fight...everyone knows GSP will destroy him in a rematch.The thing is now he has to get past BJ.....thats going to be one of the best fights in 06....and i truly believe GSP will beat BJ and go on to beat Hughes.

OmaPlata · 01-09-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JkD187

Actually he did admit that he made that mistake and promised never to do it again.Also he stated that he gave Hughes to much respect....not underestimated him he overestamated him.Even Matt Hughes himself said that he got lucky to win that fight...everyone knows GSP will destroy him in a rematch.The thing is now he has to get past BJ.....thats going to be one of the best fights in 06....and i truly believe GSP will beat BJ and go on to beat Hughes.

I like GSP, he is awesome, but sorry guys, there is very little chance he can beat Penn. How do u see it ending? KO, nope, Penn is great on his feet. Submission, GSP CANNOT submit Penn. i DONT see how he can win. I like him , I hope he kills Hughes if they fight. GSP is well rounded, but Penn is a badass mutherfucker

JkD187 · 01-09-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OmaPlata

I like GSP, he is awesome, but sorry guys, there is very little chance he can beat Penn. How do u see it ending? KO, nope, Penn is great on his feet. Submission, GSP CANNOT submit Penn. i DONT see how he can win. I like him , I hope he kills Hughes if they fight. GSP is well rounded, but Penn is a badass mutherfucker

GSP can Finish Penn by ko or by a dec....GSP will not be taken down like hughes or Gomi was.GSP has way beter striking then BJ....BJ has some very good speed and power in his striking but no where near the level of GSP.This is his year and he will be champ.BJ is going to have alot of problems with his weight and he looked very lackluster in his past 3 fights.I think the penn that toppled Gomi and Hughes is gone.

SamuraiGuy · 01-09-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OmaPlata

I like GSP, he is awesome, but sorry guys, there is very little chance he can beat Penn. How do u see it ending? KO, nope, Penn is great on his feet. Submission, GSP CANNOT submit Penn. i DONT see how he can win. I like him , I hope he kills Hughes if they fight. GSP is well rounded, but Penn is a badass mutherfucker

GSP has better striking.. and penn wont be able to take him down... its simple how he will beat him.. not sprawl and brawl.. sprawl and maul... heh heh... actually I think it will be a good fight.. I see GSP winning though.. hes alot bigger than penn

cronin · 01-10-2006, 09:31 AM

I guess we'll get to see it after all!

http://www.graciemag.com/?c=144&a=3491

(from GracieMag):

Penn back to UFC on March 4th
Franklin to defend middleweight belt
Now it is official. Black belt BJ Penn who is back to UFC after a period fighting for K-1, will face Canadian Georges St. Pierre on March 4th, when UFC 58 will be held at the Mandalay Bay Event Center, in Las Vegas, Nevada.

On the same night David “The Crow” Loiseau will get his first UFC title shot when he takes on UFC 185 pound champion, Rich “Ace” Franklin. This will be Franklin’s second title defense, his first defense came November of 2005, when he knocked out Nate Quarry in the first round.

OmaPlata · 01-10-2006, 10:37 AM

Much as I know Penn WILL WIN, its going to be one awesome fight, I like GSP alot, and I like Penn alot too....Penns ground game is far far superior, thats where the fight will end

shadowkiller · 01-10-2006, 08:14 PM

GSP has a great ground game just watch the trigg fight. I mean Trigg is no BJ not by a long shot but if you look how well he controlled him it was amazing. He went from having his back to guard, back to guard so may times before he finally decided to sink a choke. He just had Trigg completly controlled, there was nothing he could do.

On another note the Louiseau, Franklin fight. What do you guys see happening there? I would favour Louiseau in that fight. Seeing him fight is almost as good as watching GSP go at it. They have basically the same style, I guess that comes from training together though.

OmaPlata · 01-10-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowkiller

GSP has a great ground game just watch the trigg fight. I mean Trigg is no BJ not by a long shot but if you look how well he controlled him it was amazing. He went from having his back to guard, back to guard so may times before he finally decided to sink a choke. He just had Trigg completly controlled, there was nothing he could do.

On another note the Louiseau, Franklin fight. What do you guys see happening there? I would favour Louiseau in that fight. Seeing him fight is almost as good as watching GSP go at it. They have basically the same style, I guess that comes from training together though.

Franklin will kill Louseau, bet the house on it.
Dominating Trigg on the ground isnt that impressive, he got arm barred at the ADCC in like 1 minute. GSP is impressive in all areas though so far that Ive seen him

zhorner · 01-10-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

Question...

Why do you hate Dana?

It was right of him to strip Penn of the title... you dont go around fighting for other organizations when your under a contract with one, and when you are the champ of one.

Think about if Penn gets hurt in a fight.. now Dana cant have his champion fight anyone?... How is that good for business...

It was a smart business move.. fighter or not hes gotta respect the contracts he signs.

thats understandable....

i dont know what it is...but i have disliked that dude ever since the first season of tuf...i know its not fair of me to judge him without even ever meeting him... but its just something about him.

SamuraiGuy · 01-11-2006, 03:52 PM

I've got franklin over lousieau, and GSP over penn....

Georges recently did pretty well in the ADCC did he not... and also.. I dont see Penn being able to take GSP down..

also didnt Jens Pulver outstrike BJ.. I think he did If I remember correctly...

now if someone asked who would win the striking battle.. gsp or pulver... I think more people would say GSP..

but since its BJ penn.. oh shit... everyone open their arms up wide... nutthugging time

OmaPlata · 01-12-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

I dont see Penn being able to take GSP down..

also didnt Jens Pulver outstrike BJ..

but since its BJ penn.. oh shit... everyone open their arms up wide... nutthugging time

Penn will close the distance and take him down I feel easily. GSP is outclassed, period. He is awesome, but not ready for Penn. Penn brings a pompous and arrogant and bad ass attitude into the ring. I like that.
Penn is the ONE guy that really shows his BJJ in the ring. He isnt a bloated and roided Vitor who jumped from purple to black and didnt take Titos back3 times when offered to him. Penn is the real deal, a REAL black belt, actually the 1st american to win the world BJJ championship, other than a brazilian. Penn by submission, or by GNP stoppage.

SamuraiGuy · 01-12-2006, 04:50 PM

Were gonna have to agree to disagree... while pens BJJ is obviously a lot better than GSP's or Vitors as you mentioned...

I find my bjj isnt as good when I've got someone mashing my face with elbows... etc...

I guess we will find out though whos right..

OmaPlata · 01-13-2006, 06:05 PM

[QUOTE=SamuraiGuy]

I find my bjj isnt as good when I've got someone mashing my face with elbows... etc...

QUOTE]

01-10-2006, 09:31 AM	#37 (permalink)
cronin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 20 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Penn and GSP March 4th I guess we'll get to see it after all! http://www.graciemag.com/?c=144&a=3491 (from GracieMag): Penn back to UFC on March 4th Franklin to defend middleweight belt Now it is official. Black belt BJ Penn who is back to UFC after a period fighting for K-1, will face Canadian Georges St. Pierre on March 4th, when UFC 58 will be held at the Mandalay Bay Event Center, in Las Vegas, Nevada. On the same night David “The Crow” Loiseau will get his first UFC title shot when he takes on UFC 185 pound champion, Rich “Ace” Franklin. This will be Franklin’s second title defense, his first defense came November of 2005, when he knocked out Nate Quarry in the first round.

01-11-2006, 03:52 PM	#42 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've got franklin over lousieau, and GSP over penn.... Georges recently did pretty well in the ADCC did he not... and also.. I dont see Penn being able to take GSP down.. also didnt Jens Pulver outstrike BJ.. I think he did If I remember correctly... now if someone asked who would win the striking battle.. gsp or pulver... I think more people would say GSP.. but since its BJ penn.. oh shit... everyone open their arms up wide... nutthugging time __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

01-12-2006, 04:50 PM	#44 (permalink)
SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,866 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Were gonna have to agree to disagree... while pens BJJ is obviously a lot better than GSP's or Vitors as you mentioned... I find my bjj isnt as good when I've got someone mashing my face with elbows... etc... I guess we will find out though whos right.. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

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01-08-2006, 10:30 PM	#31 (permalink)
mr.mma Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I met gsp today at a seminar. The guy is a class act. I know he will beat penn and move on to beating hughes. Hes on a role and it wont stop untill he has many title defences

01-10-2006, 10:37 AM	#38 (permalink)
OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,397 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Much as I know Penn WILL WIN, its going to be one awesome fight, I like GSP alot, and I like Penn alot too....Penns ground game is far far superior, thats where the fight will end

01-10-2006, 08:14 PM	#39 (permalink)
shadowkiller Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 424 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	GSP has a great ground game just watch the trigg fight. I mean Trigg is no BJ not by a long shot but if you look how well he controlled him it was amazing. He went from having his back to guard, back to guard so may times before he finally decided to sink a choke. He just had Trigg completly controlled, there was nothing he could do. On another note the Louiseau, Franklin fight. What do you guys see happening there? I would favour Louiseau in that fight. Seeing him fight is almost as good as watching GSP go at it. They have basically the same style, I guess that comes from training together though.

01-13-2006, 06:05 PM	#45 (permalink)
OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,397 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	[QUOTE=SamuraiGuy] I find my bjj isnt as good when I've got someone mashing my face with elbows... etc... QUOTE]

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