shadow fighting!?

[fastandfurious]

I sometimes shadow fight with kicks, punches, all types of strikes and blocks, but what I'm wondering is if theres any way of practicing joint locks and stuff like takedowns and grappling in shadow fighting? I know its a kind of stupid question but is there any way?

Many thanks

[Tant01]

Djurus....

Yes... It is like kata.

Djurus
Every martial system of which we are aware includes patterned movement in its fundamental training methods. There may be many of these - Wah Lum Preying Mantis Kung Fu has over a hundred forms. Boxing has shadow boxing and combinations.There may be few. They may be long or only a few movements long like the combinations a boxer practices in bag work. They all attempt to ingrain the habits and principles of movement of the system in the practitioner.

A common term for these patterned movements in the Indonesian martial arts is djuru. Some of them are long and involve the entire body and weapons. Some traditions use djurus which are actually two (or more) person sets of techniques. Systems like Sumatran Harimau do not use djurus. Transitions from stance to stance and position to position fill the same purpose.



http://www.pencaksilat.com/djurus.html

[fastandfurious]

thanks but what I need is to know like what exactly it is that you're supposed to do to practice.. give me an example plz.?

[SamuraiGuy]

You can kinda practice your take downs... for instance you can practice your shot (double leg), and just work on building up the speed... but dont think you can really practice ground work, and alot of takedowns without a partner would just be kinda... strange to imagine. You can practice your shot all day long though

[Tant01]

You can do any thing you like, the pattern movements cannot be taught on a message board.

The movements and positions simulate doing techniques to a resisting opponent...


Try this... Put both hands out in front of your face like a shield from boxing punches... (pretend) you are gripping behind the opponent's head and pull his face into your knee strike.

(Pretend) you are performing a single arm wrap to a shoulder push to lock out the (imagined) elbow joint... Also sweep with your foot to simulate a takedown...

The list is virtually endless but I can't find animated Silat Djurus. Judo maybe?

Take a look... these are crude but maybe give a clue to some solo drills?

http://www.meutatame.com.br/chaves.htm (Kansetsuwaza)

http://www.meutatame.com.br/estrangulamento.htm (shime waza)

[Tant01]

You can also practice the double leg takedown defense (sprawl) by throwing your legs backward at the same time (not stepping but a short or long hop back) and falling into a kind of push up position.

Simulate keeping both legs out of reach of the quick shoot and pushing the attacker to the deck (downward)

Also some old sketches of things (to do) with a knife >>> http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/section2.html

[bbbb]

Originally Posted by fastandfurious

thanks but what I need is to know like what exactly it is that you're supposed to do to practice.. give me an example plz.?

Eagle claw-knee/kick to balls.

We have three situation's in which to practise the technique's from.

1) Hand's down.
2) Guard up.
3) Punch's coming at you.

[danfaggella]

Kind of like a form, I suppose, you can practice the mechanics of your favorite takedowns. Ask your coach or instructor about the mechanics of a certain Judo sacrifice throw, or Greco-Roman thrown, or wrestling shot, or whatever it is you do, and make sure your timing and footwork and speed ect... are perfect, make it become very natural.

Jeez, I should start doing that.

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by danfaggella

Kind of like a form, I suppose, you can practice the mechanics of your favorite takedowns. Ask your coach or instructor about the mechanics of a certain Judo sacrifice throw, or Greco-Roman thrown, or wrestling shot, or whatever it is you do, and make sure your timing and footwork and speed ect... are perfect, make it become very natural.

Jeez, I should start doing that.

One of my favorite Judo legends (Masahiko Kimura) used to practice Osoto Gari on small trees!

[danfaggella]

So do I, i mean....