what is the best to cross train with boxing??

murphy.Boxer · 03-20-2006, 02:47 PM

hi im boxing 2years now and i want to try out a new martial art i havent decided which yet any suggestions thanks.

muaythaiguy15 · 03-20-2006, 04:26 PM

Well, do you want a stand up style, a ground style, a soft style, a hard style, an eastern style, a western style, or what? Gotta give a little more info.

Personally Id say do...Muay Thai or Shootfighting.

murphy.Boxer · 03-20-2006, 04:43 PM

what is shootfighting?

danfaggella · 03-20-2006, 05:21 PM

Google it. Its a modern sportive martial art which is also a competitive sport. It looks a lot like what you may know as "Ultimate Fighting" or "No holds barred competition."

Do your homework and decide what you want out of the martial arts, how you like to train, what you are interested in, ect....

LoneHusky · 03-20-2006, 10:48 PM

bjj. Shootfighting schools in the us seem far and in between, not sure about ireland but I'm thinkin it's mostly in japan. maybe search for an mma school.

Tant01 · 03-20-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by murphy.Boxer

hi im boxing 2years now and i want to try out a new martial art i havent decided which yet any suggestions thanks.

Judo....Punch, grapple, throwdown, if you were a kick-boxer, all the better!
Thai elbows and knees are good too...

Do what you like, that way you will enjoy learning and get better at it faster.

danfaggella · 03-20-2006, 11:44 PM

Yeah really, don't just take up a martial art because we say so, figure out what you like, what is around you, what you are interested in, what role martial arts will play in your life, ect... If you want to be a NHB fighter than BJJ is a decent choice, as is Muay Thai, and a few other arts that are commonsly taught at "MMA" schools around America.

Tant01 · 03-20-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by danfaggella

....If you want to be a NHB fighter than BJJ is a decent choice, as is Muay Thai, and a few other arts that are commonsly taught at "MMA" schools around America.

He lives in Ireland....

EmptyneSs · 03-21-2006, 02:10 AM

mixing anything with boxing is good. if you train in another striking art like mt, or wing chun it could take your striking and speed to a whole new level, but then again if you already know striking, supplementing it with grappling is always recommended.

cam427 · 03-21-2006, 07:01 AM

I would recommend the SBG in Harolds Cross or two kings if you are in Dublin.

www.sbgireland.com

www.twokingsmma.net

By far the best MMA clubs in Ireland.

>:) · 03-21-2006, 06:40 PM

It's depends what your goals and purposes are but you've got your punching range down, I suggest working on the other three. Kicking, trapping and grappling ranges. Go to different classes, try them out and see what you like man!

SamuraiGuy · 03-21-2006, 08:36 PM

Judo or wrestling, you can blast em with your hands from the boxing, and if they start to tangle you up you can put them down hard, then run away or kick them in the head.

If its for MMA, sprawl and brawl man, sprawl and brawl.

danfaggella · 03-21-2006, 09:21 PM

I don't like to call kicking a range.

I think that free-moving, clinching, and ground-fighting is a good way to devide hand to hand combat. When you say "punching range" and "kicking range" you assume that certain attacks are your only options in certain distances.

Tant01 · 03-21-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by danfaggella

I don't like to call kicking a range.

I think that free-moving, clinching, and ground-fighting is a good way to devide hand to hand combat. When you say "punching range" and "kicking range" you assume that certain attacks are your only options in certain distances.

Yeah, that's JKD talking.... The way I see it you're either in it or not. The idea of breaking things down is good academic stuff but to be honest there's only a fraction of a second between being out of range and then just crashing through kicking, punching and trapping range straight into grappling...

danfaggella · 03-22-2006, 12:44 AM

Actually thats Renzo Gracie's book, "Mastering Jujitsu" talking, but yeah the philosophies are similar.

I think that if you have no grip or real control on your opponent you are simply free-moving, because I don't like to think of certain ever-changing ranges to indicate certain attacks, I can kick from punching range, punch from knee range, ect...

When someone has a grip on me (underhook, front headlock, grip on my wrist) I consider this little phase the clinch.

Ground-fighting, wether it be striking from a dominant position or submitting or escaping or whatever, is ground fighting. This is when gravity and the ground cna be used to have maximum control over another person's body.

None of these classifications limit my attacks. For instance, when my opponent grabs my wrist I don't call this "Chin Na" range, because I may want to do some striking, some shooting, or some pummeling.

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LoneHusky Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 578	bjj. Shootfighting schools in the us seem far and in between, not sure about ireland but I'm thinkin it's mostly in japan. maybe search for an mma school. __________________

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cam427 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 255	training in Ireland I would recommend the SBG in Harolds Cross or two kings if you are in Dublin. www.sbgireland.com www.twokingsmma.net By far the best MMA clubs in Ireland.

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>:) Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: england Posts: 145	It's depends what your goals and purposes are but you've got your punching range down, I suggest working on the other three. Kicking, trapping and grappling ranges. Go to different classes, try them out and see what you like man! __________________

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SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,865	Judo or wrestling, you can blast em with your hands from the boxing, and if they start to tangle you up you can put them down hard, then run away or kick them in the head. If its for MMA, sprawl and brawl man, sprawl and brawl. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

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muaythaiguy15 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 275	Well, do you want a stand up style, a ground style, a soft style, a hard style, an eastern style, a western style, or what? Gotta give a little more info. Personally Id say do...Muay Thai or Shootfighting.

03-20-2006, 04:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
murphy.Boxer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 21	what is shootfighting?

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danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	Google it. Its a modern sportive martial art which is also a competitive sport. It looks a lot like what you may know as "Ultimate Fighting" or "No holds barred competition." Do your homework and decide what you want out of the martial arts, how you like to train, what you are interested in, ect....

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danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	Yeah really, don't just take up a martial art because we say so, figure out what you like, what is around you, what you are interested in, what role martial arts will play in your life, ect... If you want to be a NHB fighter than BJJ is a decent choice, as is Muay Thai, and a few other arts that are commonsly taught at "MMA" schools around America.

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EmptyneSs Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Posts: 2,120	mixing anything with boxing is good. if you train in another striking art like mt, or wing chun it could take your striking and speed to a whole new level, but then again if you already know striking, supplementing it with grappling is always recommended.

03-21-2006, 09:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	I don't like to call kicking a range. I think that free-moving, clinching, and ground-fighting is a good way to devide hand to hand combat. When you say "punching range" and "kicking range" you assume that certain attacks are your only options in certain distances.

03-22-2006, 12:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	Actually thats Renzo Gracie's book, "Mastering Jujitsu" talking, but yeah the philosophies are similar. I think that if you have no grip or real control on your opponent you are simply free-moving, because I don't like to think of certain ever-changing ranges to indicate certain attacks, I can kick from punching range, punch from knee range, ect... When someone has a grip on me (underhook, front headlock, grip on my wrist) I consider this little phase the clinch. Ground-fighting, wether it be striking from a dominant position or submitting or escaping or whatever, is ground fighting. This is when gravity and the ground cna be used to have maximum control over another person's body. None of these classifications limit my attacks. For instance, when my opponent grabs my wrist I don't call this "Chin Na" range, because I may want to do some striking, some shooting, or some pummeling.

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