How long for the belt

Don · 01-19-2001, 08:57 PM

If someone trains bjj 2 times a week.How long should it take to recieve a blue belt in bjj?I know it depends on a individual but aprrox.....

Someone wrote that it took him 5 months.Isnt that very fast.
My friend is brown belt in judo and it took him 1.5 years to recieve blue belt in bjj and he was training 5 times a week.

andreh anderson · 01-19-2001, 09:12 PM

Totally depends on the individual AND the instructor. From what I understand, Torrance gives their students the blue belt after a certain number of classes. Other schools usually give it when they see that you have a solid understanding of the basics. In reality, it will mostly depend upon how you exhibit your skill in sparring. If you are beating most of the white belts and holding your own with the blues, you are probably gonna get the belt.

Don · 01-19-2001, 09:15 PM

I understand that but what is the normal for getting the blue belt - 6 months,1 year or 2 years.

How long did it take you guys to get a blue belt and how often did you train a week.

hounddog · 01-19-2001, 09:32 PM

how's 3 months to 3 years sound for a range. It is so subjective. I wouldn't even worry about belt color until purple. Once you have purple, you are the man. no doubt about it.

bobby_steeles · 01-19-2001, 09:37 PM

you gotta be patient and train "wicked hard".
i stole that from bob s.

Underdog · 01-19-2001, 09:43 PM

I got my blue belt in Ruas Vale Tudo In two years.

Here Is what I have endured:

Muay Thai basics (leg kicks, front kicks, high kicks, basic punching, basic combinations, sparring)

Boxing basics (basic combinations, light sparring)

Submissions: basic positioning, the guard, mount, knee on stomach, N/S, side mount, back mount.

Assorted armbars, shoulder locks, neck crancks, basic escapes from positioning.

Ryan The Bad · 01-20-2001, 01:50 AM

On average, I'd say 2 years.

SweepEm · 01-20-2001, 04:32 AM

Look, even in college, dudes take 2 years to NEVER to get their degree.
Now this is a martial art and you have way too many factors to bring into account.
Is this your first martial art or do you have Judo, wrestling, Aikido.....etc. as backgrounds also?
How good of shape are you in? Cardio and weights?
Your mental capacity and being able to act and react.
Your knowledge to retain techniques being showed to you and then the ability to see the openings and use them.

As the dude put it, 3 months to 3 years is the span, but i know a few dudes that should NEVER get their blue belt. HA!
So, if you take 3 months to 36 months and you take the average, then around 1 1/2 years.
And also mentioned is the standards that your instructor has, whether it's a real high bar to attain or much lower than most instructors.
If you go to tournaments and see the same guys from one school getting beat consistently, then you know that one instructor has much lower standards than the other schools.
There are a few instructors that purposely keep his students and don't promote them, so that when they compete, they wipe out most of the competition and everyone thinks that this instructor is tough and puts out good students, but in reality, they are much better and competing in a bracket where they shouldn't be.
A few years back, in one BJJ tournament, I got smoked but still got my second place medal, yeah, there were only two in the weight class.
Afterwards a few people that I never met, came up to me, to console me and said that the guy I went against should have been in a higher belt level. It was that obvious. They said that his instructor purposely keeps guys down and don't promote them.
I did feel very depressed, since I had traveled pretty far to compete in that tournament, only to get smoked in less than 2 minutes.
Hearing that the guy I went against, was a ringer made me feel a little bit better, but not much.
Oh well.
Life isn't always fair.

dan downard · 01-20-2001, 06:13 AM

A belt should be the farthest thing from your mind.The only thing you should be thinking about is the last class and what you are working on and need to work on.The rest will come when it comes.The old saying,(one day at a time )is a good training program.

Don · 01-20-2001, 11:34 AM

Thanks for the replies

Im not worried about the belt, i was just curious...
90 % of the white belts either cant submitt me or i submitt them and they have been training at least 6 months more than me...but i have some experience from submission wresling and i've been lifting weights for 6 years....

Thanks

Karlinhos · 01-20-2001, 03:45 PM

andreh... BUDDY (i have to say that out of fear... lol), that's not entirely true that torrance gives blues according to the amount of classes taken. i knew a guy that had WELL over 100 classes to his credit and he was still a white belt. he was the extreme of cases (he sucked, hehe), but torrance WILL hold a belt back if waranted. it's listed that wasy in their brochures/paperwork, but i think that's more of a guidline... a very rough guidline.

me... it took me about 4 months @ 2x/week (i'm a show off, hehehe). i had NO prior ma experience or wrestling experience.

i think MY advantage was that i was older when i started (more mature - good for listening, retaining and understanding) and i've always been VERY involved in all types of sports, so i have a GOOD athelitic foundation, balance and coordination.

Lowell Anderson (brown belt, now a black belt who used to teach at torrance) used to comment to me that i was a VERY good listener in class. :-)

bottom line... EVERYONE is different... and to base your possible ranking on how you do against your classmates is NOT a good gauge. no offense, but comparatively speaking to the other bjj players out there, they could suck! winning or surviving isn't EVERYTHING when being awarded a "belt". your knowledge and execution of the techniques PROPERLY should be and is USUALLY the gauge when awarding a belt at a reputable academy.

good luck to you and keep training!

TRAIN ON!

karl

andreh anderson · 01-20-2001, 11:58 PM

Karl!

Thanks for clarifying that!

Just goes to show you how rumors get started (by guyus like me with only half the info!).

Take care.

Karlinhos · 01-21-2001, 03:54 PM

hahaha... noooooooooo.. it's cool.

i mean, it can even be easily "subtantiated" since the "promotion chart" (or at least it used to be, i don't know if it still is) is in their introductory paperwork.

take care bro, hope to see you soon!

karl

andreh anderson · 01-21-2001, 11:09 PM

Karl,

Come visit Rey's again someday! You really should come and hang out one night at the Culver City school. We always hit the local diner after training.

Mako · 01-22-2001, 06:02 PM

Sweep,

Sorry, gotta bust on you here...

If the times given were between 3 months, and 3 years, then 1 1/2 years would be the MEDIAN, not the MEAN (or average).

Unless we had more statistical data, that perhaps each catagory had identical entries, THEN 1 1/2 years would be both MEAN and MEDIAN.

(I figure if we have grammar guardians on this forum, someone should take the math end as well!)

Seriously, how's everything at Rey's? Hope all is well with you guys; I look forward to training there again in the near future.

01-20-2001, 01:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ryan The Bad Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Sacramento Ca. Posts: 69 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	On average, I'd say 2 years. __________________ You can have no dominion greater or less than that over yourself. - Leonardo da Vinci

01-20-2001, 06:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
dan downard Advanced Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 591 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	A belt should be the farthest thing from your mind.The only thing you should be thinking about is the last class and what you are working on and need to work on.The rest will come when it comes.The old saying,(one day at a time )is a good training program. __________________

01-20-2001, 03:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	andreh... BUDDY (i have to say that out of fear... lol), that's not entirely true that torrance gives blues according to the amount of classes taken. i knew a guy that had WELL over 100 classes to his credit and he was still a white belt. he was the extreme of cases (he sucked, hehe), but torrance WILL hold a belt back if waranted. it's listed that wasy in their brochures/paperwork, but i think that's more of a guidline... a very rough guidline. me... it took me about 4 months @ 2x/week (i'm a show off, hehehe). i had NO prior ma experience or wrestling experience. i think MY advantage was that i was older when i started (more mature - good for listening, retaining and understanding) and i've always been VERY involved in all types of sports, so i have a GOOD athelitic foundation, balance and coordination. Lowell Anderson (brown belt, now a black belt who used to teach at torrance) used to comment to me that i was a VERY good listener in class. :-) bottom line... EVERYONE is different... and to base your possible ranking on how you do against your classmates is NOT a good gauge. no offense, but comparatively speaking to the other bjj players out there, they could suck! winning or surviving isn't EVERYTHING when being awarded a "belt". your knowledge and execution of the techniques PROPERLY should be and is USUALLY the gauge when awarding a belt at a reputable academy. good luck to you and keep training! TRAIN ON! karl __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

01-21-2001, 03:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hahaha... noooooooooo.. it's cool. i mean, it can even be easily "subtantiated" since the "promotion chart" (or at least it used to be, i don't know if it still is) is in their introductory paperwork. take care bro, hope to see you soon! karl __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

01-22-2001, 06:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mako Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 274 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mean or Median? ;) Sweep, Sorry, gotta bust on you here... If the times given were between 3 months, and 3 years, then 1 1/2 years would be the MEDIAN, not the MEAN (or average). Unless we had more statistical data, that perhaps each catagory had identical entries, THEN 1 1/2 years would be both MEAN and MEDIAN. (I figure if we have grammar guardians on this forum, someone should take the math end as well!) Seriously, how's everything at Rey's? Hope all is well with you guys; I look forward to training there again in the near future.

01-19-2001, 08:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Don Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If someone trains bjj 2 times a week.How long should it take to recieve a blue belt in bjj?I know it depends on a individual but aprrox..... Someone wrote that it took him 5 months.Isnt that very fast. My friend is brown belt in judo and it took him 1.5 years to recieve blue belt in bjj and he was training 5 times a week.

01-19-2001, 09:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
andreh anderson Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Totally depends on the individual AND the instructor. From what I understand, Torrance gives their students the blue belt after a certain number of classes. Other schools usually give it when they see that you have a solid understanding of the basics. In reality, it will mostly depend upon how you exhibit your skill in sparring. If you are beating most of the white belts and holding your own with the blues, you are probably gonna get the belt.

01-19-2001, 09:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Don Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I understand that but what is the normal for getting the blue belt - 6 months,1 year or 2 years. How long did it take you guys to get a blue belt and how often did you train a week.

01-19-2001, 09:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
hounddog Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 373 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	how's 3 months to 3 years sound for a range. It is so subjective. I wouldn't even worry about belt color until purple. Once you have purple, you are the man. no doubt about it.

01-19-2001, 09:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
bobby_steeles Advanced Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: in front of my computer Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	you gotta be patient and train "wicked hard". i stole that from bob s.

01-19-2001, 09:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Underdog Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Italy Posts: 452 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got my blue belt in Ruas Vale Tudo In two years. Here Is what I have endured: Muay Thai basics (leg kicks, front kicks, high kicks, basic punching, basic combinations, sparring) Boxing basics (basic combinations, light sparring) Submissions: basic positioning, the guard, mount, knee on stomach, N/S, side mount, back mount. Assorted armbars, shoulder locks, neck crancks, basic escapes from positioning.

01-20-2001, 04:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
SweepEm Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,846 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Look, even in college, dudes take 2 years to NEVER to get their degree. Now this is a martial art and you have way too many factors to bring into account. Is this your first martial art or do you have Judo, wrestling, Aikido.....etc. as backgrounds also? How good of shape are you in? Cardio and weights? Your mental capacity and being able to act and react. Your knowledge to retain techniques being showed to you and then the ability to see the openings and use them. As the dude put it, 3 months to 3 years is the span, but i know a few dudes that should NEVER get their blue belt. HA! So, if you take 3 months to 36 months and you take the average, then around 1 1/2 years. And also mentioned is the standards that your instructor has, whether it's a real high bar to attain or much lower than most instructors. If you go to tournaments and see the same guys from one school getting beat consistently, then you know that one instructor has much lower standards than the other schools. There are a few instructors that purposely keep his students and don't promote them, so that when they compete, they wipe out most of the competition and everyone thinks that this instructor is tough and puts out good students, but in reality, they are much better and competing in a bracket where they shouldn't be. A few years back, in one BJJ tournament, I got smoked but still got my second place medal, yeah, there were only two in the weight class. Afterwards a few people that I never met, came up to me, to console me and said that the guy I went against should have been in a higher belt level. It was that obvious. They said that his instructor purposely keeps guys down and don't promote them. I did feel very depressed, since I had traveled pretty far to compete in that tournament, only to get smoked in less than 2 minutes. Hearing that the guy I went against, was a ringer made me feel a little bit better, but not much. Oh well. Life isn't always fair.

01-20-2001, 11:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
Don Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the replies Im not worried about the belt, i was just curious... 90 % of the white belts either cant submitt me or i submitt them and they have been training at least 6 months more than me...but i have some experience from submission wresling and i've been lifting weights for 6 years.... Thanks

01-20-2001, 11:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
andreh anderson Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Karl! Thanks for clarifying that! Just goes to show you how rumors get started (by guyus like me with only half the info!). Take care.

01-21-2001, 11:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
andreh anderson Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Karl, Come visit Rey's again someday! You really should come and hang out one night at the Culver City school. We always hit the local diner after training.

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