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Old 03-24-2006, 11:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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big and strong but slugish [ the bouncer type ] or small but fast who would win in a street fight.
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me or i wouldnt have asked the qeastion would i.
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There is no way of telling,Its not the size of the fighter that matters in a street fight its who want it more you could watch that sort of fight everyday and there will alwats be a diffrent out come


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Size, even the style of ma they study aren't the only factors - you can't even get an average result because too much goes into what makes one fighter successful over another at any one time - including luck. It's the stupidest question in the world and honestly I can't see how anyone could ask such an inane thing.
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To the thread starter:
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not really that stupid if your a small guy about to fight a big **** off bouncer. in fact i think its the most relivent qeastion you could possibly ask.
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Why would you start a fight with a bouncer?
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you dont have to start a fight to be in one.
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Its hard to say.
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I'm a pretty big guy naturally. But I'll tell you, even as a big person, I try to train and move like a boxer/fighter, and also stress speed and technique over strength and power. I'd never try to be a big plodder type, even though my body type could lean itself to that.

Who would win? Well that depends. If the big guy is good at using his size and conserving his energy and can get a hold of the smaller guy, then I think its the bigger guy. If the smaller guy is good at staying away, wearing the big guy out, and picking him off, then he may win. Of course there are a million other factors here (fighting skill, fighting experience, mental state, etc.), but generally that's how I would think it would turn out.
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If the smaller guy is good at staying away, wearing the big guy out, and picking him off, then he may win. Of course there are a million other factors here (fighting skill, fighting experience, mental state, etc.), but generally that's how I would think it would turn out.
A Japanese Silver Medalist in Judo fought Frans Botha (former WBF champ) in a K-1 freefight. The Judo guy weighed about 160 pds, Botha tips the scale at about 240. Judo guy got in quick, floored botha and dismantled him.

In a completely different fight, Botha banged up a 210-lb kickboxer and knocked him to the mat.

From personal experience its hard, really hard to fight a big fighter who is equally skilled. Likewise, with luck I've taken some bigger fellows in boxing/grappling and have been taken by smaller fighters.

It just depends on a lot of different things.
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Big sluggish guy whos a good fighter vs a small fast guy bad fighter...hmm...

small fast good fighter vs big bad fighter...hmmm

Id say this is a stupid thread. Not enough info and sometimes it goes either way, so who cares?
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An excerpt...Heavier fighters enjoy a significant advantage in terms of strength, size and weight. In most cases, the lighter fighter simply does not "pack enough punch" to pose any real threat to the heavier fighter. On the street, there are no weight classes and it is common to see a larger man bullying a smaller man. Therefore, you must assume your assailant will hold a significant advantage in size and strength. If you try to exchange blows with him, it is highly probable that you will also be hit during the exchange. Even if your assailant is big and clumsy, his shear size and strength will enable him to overpower you easily. His blows also stand to do considerably more damage than yours due to his size and weight. Even if you are a good boxer, you do not want to get caught in a situation where you will be exchanging blows. In a free exchange, you should expect to be hit. If your opponent is bigger and stronger, will your punches still be effective? How about the effectiveness of his punches feel?
If you cannot avoid a confrontation, a better alternative would be to close the distance between you and your opponent to secure and control him. Once you have control of your opponent, you may then work to bring him to the ground. Due to the size difference, there is a good chance your opponent may bring you to the ground first. In that case, you can be confident that your Jiu-Jitsu skills will help you defend yourself. Jiu-Jitsu is the only self-defense system that effectively addresses the intricacies of ground fighting.
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Bouncer type, etc. all is fairly insignificant because there are too many unnamed and sometimes unnameable factors that could determine who wins - if the little guy has a nice little knife with him and the big guy "grabs a hold" he could easily be dead (one possibility). It's a really stupid question, you could give thousands of different scenarios - it's simply too undetailed to generate anywhere near an accurate answer.
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