Bas Rutten fight compilation...

BoarSpear · 04-26-2006, 07:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kugsq...h=Bas%20Rutten

Gee i wonder if palms are effective in a fight?

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 04-26-2006, 08:00 PM

Yeah, everyone's seen that highlight clip already

BoarSpear · 04-26-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3

Yeah, everyone's seen that highlight clip already

Its good to see everyone has a spokesperson

SamuraiGuy · 04-26-2006, 08:57 PM

Not taking anything away from palm strikes but...

You do know in Pancrase they cant strike to the head with a clenched fist?..

Yet when Bas hit the body he used a closed fist.

I'm not sure what he used to the head in his UFC fights, I'd guess the fist though.

BoarSpear · 04-26-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

Not taking anything away from palm strikes but...

You do know in Pancrase they cant strike to the head with a clenched fist?..

Yet when Bas hit the body he used a closed fist.

I'm not sure what he used to the head in his UFC fights, I'd guess the fist though.

the rule is soft weapons for hard targets: palm to head. hard weapon for soft targets: punches to body. thats a good rule of thumb anyway, but i think the pancrase rules did forbid punches to the head.

OmaPlata · 04-27-2006, 07:59 PM

gotta love those flaming faggot pink knee high latex boots. wheres the clip of Ken owning him on the ground via the knee bar in 30 seconds?

danfaggella · 04-27-2006, 09:31 PM

The atire was a bit strange.

The palms were the only thing allowed tot he head. However, its proabaly not a bad idea considering they didn't have gloves, and in the street nobody does. This certainly shows that palms CAN be very effective, though it doesn't show weather punches would be more or less effective for the same thing (due to rules). I think using palms on the head is logical without gloves. Broken hands suck.

OmaPlata · 04-27-2006, 09:38 PM

I like the old Keith Hackney fight where he leveled teh Sumo guy with the palm strikes to the temple. Hackney still broke his hand though and couldnt continue. Hackney gave Royce a awesome run though, he ran outta gas else he may have beaten Royce, Rocye was having his hands full with Hackney

danfaggella · 04-27-2006, 09:47 PM

Can I see any of those older fights on the internet? Hackney was the Savate man right?

BoarSpear · 04-27-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by danfaggella

Can I see any of those older fights on the internet? Hackney was the Savate man right?

nah hackney was a White Tiger Kempo Karate guy, and he broke his hand PUNCHING the sumo in the head AFTER the palm strike put the 650 lber down

danfaggella · 04-27-2006, 09:58 PM

Yep, fists on skulls can break hands, palms are certainly very nice.

This is another reason I think gloves give strikers a HUGE help in NHB.

BoarSpear · 04-27-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by danfaggella

Yep, fists on skulls can break hands, palms are certainly very nice.

This is another reason I think gloves give strikers a HUGE help in NHB.

nah gloves hinder them

it gives the grappler a handle he wouldnt otherwise have on a sweaty opponent...they also allow punchers to keep throwing dumbass punches to the head

take the gloves away and the palms will become evident, Bas found them pretty quick

danfaggella · 04-27-2006, 10:45 PM

No, gloves prevent people from breaking thier hands.

They also hinder grip fro a grappler way more than they create a bulb for a handle.

kuk sool won · 04-29-2006, 05:50 AM

well there has to be at least some rules helping strikers out otherwise it would completely biased towards ground...

JkD187 · 04-29-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kuk sool won

well there has to be at least some rules helping strikers out otherwise it would completely biased towards ground...

It's called a stand up....and back in the day they even had rope breaks.You had 5 points....if you got knocked down you lost a point if you were caught in a sub..you could grab the ropes but you lose a point....lose all 5 points and the fight is over you lose a tech dec.Of course most fights ended by a sub or ko though.

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SamuraiGuy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,865	Not taking anything away from palm strikes but... You do know in Pancrase they cant strike to the head with a clenched fist?.. Yet when Bas hit the body he used a closed fist. I'm not sure what he used to the head in his UFC fights, I'd guess the fist though. __________________ "a few User CP's that are pretty significant ones(like a BoarSpear or SamuraiGuy one). " - GracieHunter I choke people, I dont poke people. -- Me Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in, I refuse. -- Foo Fighters I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie. I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me

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04-26-2006, 08:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,511	Yeah, everyone's seen that highlight clip already

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OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,402	gotta love those flaming faggot pink knee high latex boots. wheres the clip of Ken owning him on the ground via the knee bar in 30 seconds?

04-27-2006, 09:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	The atire was a bit strange. The palms were the only thing allowed tot he head. However, its proabaly not a bad idea considering they didn't have gloves, and in the street nobody does. This certainly shows that palms CAN be very effective, though it doesn't show weather punches would be more or less effective for the same thing (due to rules). I think using palms on the head is logical without gloves. Broken hands suck.

04-27-2006, 09:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,402	I like the old Keith Hackney fight where he leveled teh Sumo guy with the palm strikes to the temple. Hackney still broke his hand though and couldnt continue. Hackney gave Royce a awesome run though, he ran outta gas else he may have beaten Royce, Rocye was having his hands full with Hackney

04-27-2006, 09:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	Can I see any of those older fights on the internet? Hackney was the Savate man right?

04-27-2006, 09:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	Yep, fists on skulls can break hands, palms are certainly very nice. This is another reason I think gloves give strikers a HUGE help in NHB.

04-27-2006, 10:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089	No, gloves prevent people from breaking thier hands. They also hinder grip fro a grappler way more than they create a bulb for a handle.

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