The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Warrior189 · 05-13-2006, 02:02 PM

Sometimes it doesn't matter how many years of experience you have. The thing that does matter is the skills n techniques you use to win a fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVy0k...0fu%20training

medic06 · 05-13-2006, 04:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7Oa...cie%20sakuraba

m_calingo · 05-13-2006, 06:06 PM

The clip with Sakuraba shows what can happen when you have an exceptional fighter, such as Sakuraba, who is versed in BJJ counters against a Gracie.

It's hard to tell from the quality of the clip, but Royce must have been really messed up for his corner to throw in the towel. Considering he was matched against a wrestler, I was surprised that Royce wasn't actually defeated by a counter submission, or a choke, but rather the cumulative effect of kicks and punches over the span of several rounds.

To his credit, he fought like a tiger throughout the match, but it also appears that he absorbed a number of heavy punches as well.

EmptyneSs · 05-13-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m_calingo

The clip with Sakuraba shows what can happen when you have an exceptional fighter, such as Sakuraba, who is versed in BJJ counters against a Gracie.

It's hard to tell from the quality of the clip, but Royce must have been really messed up for his corner to throw in the towel. Considering he was matched against a wrestler, I was surprised that Royce wasn't actually defeated by a counter submission, or a choke, but rather the cumulative effect of kicks and punches over the span of several rounds.

To his credit, he fought like a tiger throughout the match, but it also appears that he absorbed a number of heavy punches as well.

i think one of those low kicks broke ryoce's leg, and thats why they threw in the towl.

Motion · 05-13-2006, 07:26 PM

Damn Sakuraba!

Does anyone think Royce shouldn't have worn his gi?

medic06 · 05-13-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by m_calingo

The clip with Sakuraba shows what can happen when you have an exceptional fighter, such as Sakuraba, who is versed in BJJ counters against a Gracie.

It's hard to tell from the quality of the clip, but Royce must have been really messed up for his corner to throw in the towel. Considering he was matched against a wrestler, I was surprised that Royce wasn't actually defeated by a counter submission, or a choke, but rather the cumulative effect of kicks and punches over the span of several rounds.

To his credit, he fought like a tiger throughout the match, but it also appears that he absorbed a number of heavy punches as well.

BJJ counters = catch wrestling??????

Shard · 05-13-2006, 09:34 PM

Shouldn't have worn it. Sakuraba took full advantage of royce's gi and used it agaisnt him.

BoarSpear · 05-13-2006, 09:39 PM

Gee, I thought the gi was part of the Gracie game plan

jubaji · 05-13-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BoarforestSpear

Gee, I thought the gi was part of the Gracie game plan

And apparently obsession is part of your game plan...

knifethrower · 05-13-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jubaji

And apparently obsession is part of your game plan...

And apparently obsession is part of your game plan too....

jubaji · 05-13-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knifethrower

And apparently obsession is part of your game plan too....

Could be. About what?

Shard · 05-13-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BoarSpear

Gee, I thought the gi was part of the Gracie game plan

It may have been but clearly this one worked agaisnt him. Come to think of it, I think he wears the Gi more out of respect for tradition than a "game plan" unless he intends to choke them out with a belt.

Troll Virus · 05-13-2006, 11:29 PM

Not to mention, dare I say it, but striking did more damage than grappling.

knifethrower · 05-14-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jubaji

Could be. About what?

No way, dude…homie don’t play that. It will turn into a psychological break down of you’re posts. Inevitably, this will lead to the same process with Boar (your arch enemy and evil counter part

). This may even lead to the two of you understanding each other…..where’s the fun in that

m_calingo · 05-14-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by medic06

BJJ counters = catch wrestling??????

Whatever Sakuraba was doing, it worked. Royce was not able to hold him down long enough to either choke him out, or submit him with an armbar, or anything else that's part of his toolbox.

For his part, Sakuraba wasn't able to choke Royce out or apply an armbar either. The difference came down to who to beat the #$%@ out of the other guy, and in this case, Sakuraba was the better man.

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05-13-2006, 06:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
m_calingo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 107 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The clip with Sakuraba shows what can happen when you have an exceptional fighter, such as Sakuraba, who is versed in BJJ counters against a Gracie. It's hard to tell from the quality of the clip, but Royce must have been really messed up for his corner to throw in the towel. Considering he was matched against a wrestler, I was surprised that Royce wasn't actually defeated by a counter submission, or a choke, but rather the cumulative effect of kicks and punches over the span of several rounds. To his credit, he fought like a tiger throughout the match, but it also appears that he absorbed a number of heavy punches as well.

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Motion Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Carrollton Georgia Posts: 105 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Damn Sakuraba! Does anyone think Royce shouldn't have worn his gi?

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Shard Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 180 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Shouldn't have worn it. Sakuraba took full advantage of royce's gi and used it agaisnt him.

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BoarSpear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,715 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gee, I thought the gi was part of the Gracie game plan

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Troll Virus Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Under a Bridge Posts: 802 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not to mention, dare I say it, but striking did more damage than grappling.

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