The Ultimate in Martial Arts

J-Luck · 07-16-2006, 09:20 PM

What's your favorite counter to this ancient technique???

jubaji · 07-16-2006, 09:23 PM

.................Lice.

J-Luck · 07-16-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jubaji

.................Lice.

Haha, good stuff.

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 07-16-2006, 10:34 PM

A front headlock?

J-Luck · 07-17-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3

A front headlock?

Nope, a simple ignorant side headlock, standing without an arm.

danfaggella · 07-17-2006, 12:47 AM

Ura Nage, get my hips under them.

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 07-17-2006, 01:27 AM

My first reaction would be to lock my arms tightly around their waist, step around so that im in front(toe to toe), post my knee(the inside of my knee) against the outside of their knee and roll back, then to break the lock from a top position. Or, I would just try to slip my hand through the lock(and try to get a hold of one of their wrists) and use brute force to loosen the lock and pop my head out, taking their back........

J-Luck · 07-17-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3

My first reaction would be to lock my arms tightly around their waist, step around so that im in front(toe to toe), post my knee(the inside of my knee) against the outside of their knee and roll back, then to break the lock from a top position. Or, I would just try to slip my hand through the lock(and try to get a hold of one of their wrists) and use brute force to loosen the lock and pop my head out, taking their back........

Brute force doesn't ususally work on this kind of choke. I don't argue that it's not easily countered, but that's not a good way.

I like the first one a little better.

J-Luck · 07-17-2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by danfaggella

Ura Nage, get my hips under them.

Are you a Judo practitioner? Or a wrestler? Otherwise this would seem difficult to pull off on a strong guy trying to choke you in a headlock(I think it's called a bulldog choke).

OmaPlata · 07-17-2006, 11:45 AM

If you have my with your right arm around my neck, i would put my left forearm in front of your throat and reach behind your thigh/knee with the my right hand and pick you up and slam you, with me taking side or mount, very very simple move.

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 07-17-2006, 02:58 PM

Yeah that's a scoop throw.....But your neck would still be held and choked really tight so it would be hard to slam them.......You would still be in the headlock when you hit the ground so you'd have to hop to their otherside and put your hands/arms/elbows into their face and push off(its all leverage) breaking the lock.

**kingoftheforest** · 07-17-2006, 03:01 PM

I'd punch him in the nuts as hard as I could.

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 07-17-2006, 03:04 PM

And pass out in process. Like a mouse clawing and biting while in the vice of a little python.

Tim McFatridge · 07-17-2006, 03:55 PM

Remember that the body goes where ever the head goes. If you have me in a side headlock with your left arm I would take my left arm and use it to trap your right arm or block it from hitting me...then take my right hand and grab the top of your head(hair) and pull your head back...as I did I would get my right leg behind your left leg and stand up straight and use my right leg to sweep your left foot as you are going back...from there you can reverse it to a front face lock...or go to the ground and end in side mount....if on the street I would reach and grab the nose or throat instead of the hair. Whether you are in a tourney or on the street the side head lock is a pretty easy position to escape from...BJJ has some really good escapes and counters as do MMA, JKD, Kali, Silat etc. If I get someone in a side head lock I do not like to stay standing with them...instead I like to kick a leg out and go to the ground...or drop to a knee and take it to the ground to make it more difficult for them to counter.

kuk sool won · 07-17-2006, 04:27 PM

i want to hear the street self defence people comment on this one.

'i would pull out knife slit the throat and grenade them'.

07-16-2006, 09:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
J-Luck Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,349 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Headlock What's your favorite counter to this ancient technique??? __________________ I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. - Phillipians 4:13

07-16-2006, 09:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
jubaji Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 10,102 Groans: 0 Groaned at 38 Times in 38 Posts	.................Lice. __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

07-17-2006, 03:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
kingoftheforest King (of the forest) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In the forest of course Posts: 2,274 Groans: 2 Groaned at 9 Times in 9 Posts	Hangin bag takedown. I'd punch him in the nuts as hard as I could. __________________ Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table. Because he only recognizes the element of surprise. You're the man , I'm the King.

07-17-2006, 03:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tim McFatridge Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Waco, Tx. Posts: 309 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Remember that the body goes where ever the head goes. If you have me in a side headlock with your left arm I would take my left arm and use it to trap your right arm or block it from hitting me...then take my right hand and grab the top of your head(hair) and pull your head back...as I did I would get my right leg behind your left leg and stand up straight and use my right leg to sweep your left foot as you are going back...from there you can reverse it to a front face lock...or go to the ground and end in side mount....if on the street I would reach and grab the nose or throat instead of the hair. Whether you are in a tourney or on the street the side head lock is a pretty easy position to escape from...BJJ has some really good escapes and counters as do MMA, JKD, Kali, Silat etc. If I get someone in a side head lock I do not like to stay standing with them...instead I like to kick a leg out and go to the ground...or drop to a knee and take it to the ground to make it more difficult for them to counter. __________________ Tim McFatridge Integrated Submission Grappling JKD Kali Association - www.jkdkali.com

07-17-2006, 04:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
kuk sool won Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 570 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i want to hear the street self defence people comment on this one. 'i would pull out knife slit the throat and grenade them'. __________________ '...You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist...'

07-16-2006, 10:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,562 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	A front headlock?

07-17-2006, 12:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ura Nage, get my hips under them.

07-17-2006, 01:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,562 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	My first reaction would be to lock my arms tightly around their waist, step around so that im in front(toe to toe), post my knee(the inside of my knee) against the outside of their knee and roll back, then to break the lock from a top position. Or, I would just try to slip my hand through the lock(and try to get a hold of one of their wrists) and use brute force to loosen the lock and pop my head out, taking their back........

07-17-2006, 11:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
OmaPlata Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 1,397 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you have my with your right arm around my neck, i would put my left forearm in front of your throat and reach behind your thigh/knee with the my right hand and pick you up and slam you, with me taking side or mount, very very simple move.

07-17-2006, 02:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,562 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah that's a scoop throw.....But your neck would still be held and choked really tight so it would be hard to slam them.......You would still be in the headlock when you hit the ground so you'd have to hop to their otherside and put your hands/arms/elbows into their face and push off(its all leverage) breaking the lock.

07-17-2006, 03:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,562 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	And pass out in process. Like a mouse clawing and biting while in the vice of a little python.

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