Mount & Headlock Escapes For Real Fighting

[Motion]

What are the main things you think you need to know when applying ground grappling in real life self-defense situations?

In my opinion and from observing real fights that have gone to the ground,either you should know how to effectivelly escape the mount and headlocks or how to effectivley use them yourself.

It is true that real fights can often hit the ground but it's not as complicated as many may assume. I mentoined escaping the mount and headlock because nearly every real fight I've seen that went to the ground involved one person mounting the other person or having someone in a headlock. Even when you look at the Gracie challenge matches the main problem for the strikers was that they didn't know how to escape the mount. Being able to escape the mount and headlock are probably the two most important grappling skills you need to know for real fighting along with how to use them yourself. So I think that if you can effectively escape the mount and headlock while on the ground then you are probably more prepared to handle yourself in a real situation than you may realize because again these seem to be the two most common positions taken in many real fights that go to the ground.

Think of it this way,most people out there that you will have to deal with will probably be untrained in grappling so the mount and headlock are going to be the most natural things they will know to use on you when the fight hits the ground.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by Motion

What are the main things you think you need to know when applying ground grappling in real life self-defense situations?

In my opinion and from observing real fights that have gone to the ground,either you should know how to effectivelly escape the mount and headlocks or how to effectivley use them yourself.

It is true that real fights can often hit the ground but it's not as complicated as many may assume. I mentoined escaping the mount and headlock because nearly every real fight I've seen that went to the ground involved one person mounting the other person or having someone in a headlock. Even when you look at the Gracie challenge matches the main problem for the strikers was that they didn't know how to escape the mount. Being able to escape the mount and headlock are probably the two most important grappling skills you need to know for real fighting along with how to use them yourself. So I think that if you can effectively escape the mount and headlock while on the ground then you are probably more prepared to handle yourself in a real situation than you may realize because again these seem to be the two most common positions taken in many real fights that go to the ground.

If you are a grappler, you will most likely not have to worry about escaping the mount in a fight, unless you are unluky(anything CAN happen, even if unlikely), you are significantly smaller and weaker, or you suck at grappling. You should worry more about keeping them on their back( a bad spot to be on concrete, tile, cement) and not getting there yourself.

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by J-Luck;236950[B

]If you are a grappler, you will most likely not have to worry about escaping the mount in a fight,[/b] unless you are unluky(anything CAN happen, even if unlikely), you are significantly smaller and weaker, or you suck at grappling. You should worry more about keeping them on their back( a bad spot to be on concrete, tile, cement) and not getting there yourself.

The thing about a fight is ANYTHING can happen, even if you are good you can fall, trip, stumble, etc and fall into a bad position. I know, it happened to me.
Headlocks are the easiest thing to escape from, in fact, Id love to start a fight that way, here put me in headlock idiot.

[bigboywasim]

Grappling is very important for self-defense. I believe every martial artist should know enough that he or she can get out of locks and chokes and can get back up on their feet. I agree with the thread starter for the most part. Your average Joe can only do damage three ways when you are on the ground. These three ways are kicking you from standing position when you are on floor, beating you up from the mount (ground and pound) and head locking you. This is assuming they do not have a weapon.

I value striking more in self-defense situation. This is because it is better for multiple opponents and the ground is the last spot you want to go in a street fight. However if you are smart and you are fighting one person then a Judo throw down some stairs or into a window can be a world of hurt. Also you can KO someone with a slam or something. You can slam his head into a pole or something.

The best thing to do is avoid or get away from the situation as soon as possible. If you have to fight then make it quick before you get jumped, stabbed or shot. Also keep in mind that you might still need to spend jail time even if you were defending yourself if things get out of hand.

[KiotoQuinn]

If you are in a purely self defense mode of fighting think dirty. There is no referee so go for a distracting blow like an eye gouge to distract your attacker. Then go for a simple bridge to get him off of you. To escape a headlock use a two on one technique. That is, use both your hands on one of his to relieve the pressure. Also aim for throat and crotch. Those really hurt and they tend to end the fight quickly. You may think you are punking out but its better than getting stabbed while mounted.

[sapatiero]

I was about to compose an intelligent response, but bigboywasim's grappling girls confused me. Yowzer!

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by sapatiero

I was about to compose an intelligent response, but bigboywasim's grappling girls confused me. Yowzer!

I hear that,, who the hell are those beetoches??? I want that chick on top to roll around with, she can beat the hell outta me anyday, wow

[Motion]

Originally Posted by bigboywasim

Your average Joe can only do damage three ways when you are on the ground. These three ways are kicking you from standing position when you are on floor,

Yeah I could add that kicking from the butt scoop position can also be effective for real life defense when you are on the ground and someone is trying to kick you.

Another point with the mount, I'd also include preventing the mount by raising your knees while on your back would be good for self-defense. Overall it seems like only the basics of ground grappling will be needed against untrained grapplers who you may have to deal with on the streets.

[SamuraiGuy]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

I hear that,, who the hell are those beetoches??? I want that chick on top to roll around with, she can beat the hell outta me anyday, wow

Oh god the chick on the top is so ugly, look at her face, I'm being 100% serious, I was actually gonna request that he removes that from his sig, that chick is fucking disgusting.

Btw, She is or was Chris Leben's Gf.

[bigboywasim]

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

Oh god the chick on the top is so ugly, look at her face, I'm being 100% serious, I was actually gonna request that he removes that from his sig, that chick is fucking disgusting.

Btw, She is or was Chris Leben's Gf.

I am not sure if you are trying to make fun of Omaplata like you do sometimes or if you are serious. This is the front pic of the girl on top in my sig. The girl is hot. I don't know maybe you gay or something (no offense).

[grappler-jordan]

It's Erin Toughill, for those of you that don't know who she is...

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Don't forget biting to get out of a headlock. Chase his leg and hook it then try and find some flesh to bite (hannibal lecter style). After that just bodylock and try to roll them I suppose.

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy;237829[B

]Oh god the chick on the top is so ugly,[/b] look at her face, I'm being 100% serious, I was actually gonna request that he removes that from his sig, that chick is fucking disgusting.

Btw, She is or was Chris Leben's Gf.

in this case youre making yourself look really bad, maybe keep it to yourself. The chick is smoking hott, body and face. Let me guess, youre gay and dont know it yet?

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I'd smash.

[SamuraiGuy]

Well admittedly she does look alot better in all of those other pictures, but that picture with the knee on belly, look at the face, she looks like a fucking mule in that picture... I dont know why you guys think that is attractive, I do like girls btw, but that is a fucking disgusting picture.