Pressure points in MMA question

[stimilus]

Are pressure points legal in any competitions? If not, why. If so, why doesn't anybody use them? I know that they aren't obselete because human anatomy proves that they are effective. Just curious.

[sapatiero]

Originally Posted by stimilus

I know that they aren't obselete because human anatomy proves that they are effective.

Yep - they're effective if the opponent stands there & lets you do it.

Pressure points, like wristlocks, aren't practical against a real opponent who can do anything.

[OmaPlata]

[quote=sapatiero;237972]Yep - they're effective if the opponent stands there & lets you do it.
QUOTE]

You mean like every garden variety 'chuck norris' style karate fighters do?

[sapatiero]

Exactly. It's like one of those guys who's "pressure point knockouts" only work on his own students...

[kuk sool won]

im not sure but i think pressure point striking is used in MMA. Take note of the Femoral and the common peroneal nerve in the legs.I think most pressure points like the jugular notch and others around the neck area arent permitted to be struck or pressed.

[sapatiero]

Originally Posted by kuk sool won

im not sure but i think pressure point striking is used in MMA.

I don't know of any major players who use it. It's difficult enough getting a headshot in when someone's bobbing and weaving, let alone hitting a pressure point IMO.

And wouldn't the gloves make it harder still? The only pressure point stuff I did was using the knuckles.

It would be cool if some of that stuff worked, but I don't think it does in mma?

[WildWest.]

When you're under the pressure and intensity of combat, sport or otherwise, applying a pressure point is, IMO, a very hard thing to do. They rely on fine motor skills when being effective in combat relies more on gross motor skills. They are simpler and stand more of a chance at being successful. If you want to get nitty and gritty, you could say whenever someone chokes someone out they are applying a pressure point technique.

Besides the carotid and trachea chokes, there are other pressure points around the neck which can hurt quite painfully with a proper headlock or dig with the knuckles/fingers etc. They are probably one of the more accesible points, aside from the solar plexus, but they will not necessarily win you a fight. You'll probably just piss off your opponent more. Some pressure points can work in restraining techniques, like those used by cops etc....again I wouldn't rely on them and it's pretty hard to do it on someone who's resisting and fighting you.

Personally I like Mike Brewers Law 63

"Any point is a pressure point if it is hit hard enough"

[OmaPlata]

Well guys, who can argue with this one? :

[DJColdfusion]

Originally Posted by stimilus

Are pressure points legal in any competitions? If not, why. If so, why doesn't anybody use them? I know that they aren't obselete because human anatomy proves that they are effective. Just curious.

Technically, pressure point strikes or "nerve" strikes are illegal under the unified rules recognized by most state athletic commissions in the USA; however, as it has been said before on this thread, it happens all of the time even if the striker has no actual intention of using a pressure point strike.

If you're talking about George Dilman style dim-mak hokey-pokey then no it doesn't work.

Originally Posted by sapatiero

Yep - they're effective if the opponent stands there & lets you do it.

Pressure points, like wristlocks, aren't practical against a real opponent who can do anything.

Wrist locks are pressure points? Wow, that's new to me. I hit two wristlocks in training last night against guys who were trying to whoop my ass . . . and they weren't pressure points.

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

Technically, pressure point strikes or "nerve" strikes are illegal under the unified rules recognized by most state athletic commissions in the USA; however, as it has been said before on this thread, it happens all of the time even if the striker has no actual intention of using a pressure point strike.

If you're talking about George Dilman style dim-mak hokey-pokey then no it doesn't work.



Wrist locks are pressure points? Wow, that's new to me. I hit two wristlocks in training last night against guys who were trying to whoop my ass . . . and they weren't pressure points.

People have tapped to wrist locks in the UFC

[sapatiero]

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[sapatiero]

Originally Posted by sapateiro

Pressure points, like wristlocks, aren't practical against a real opponent who can do anything.

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

Wrist locks are pressure points? Wow, that's new to me. I hit two wristlocks in training last night against guys who were trying to whoop my ass . . . and they weren't pressure points.

If your grammar was as good as your sarcasm my friend, you would've noticed the comma. Now try getting a grown-up to read it to you...

[grappler-jordan]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

Well guys, who can argue with this one? :

Actually laughed out loud at my desk... great post Oma, great post....

[MMA Apostate]

I've used pressure points when sparring others in MMA. I didn't use them as a way to win/finish the fight. Usually I was being dominated by someone elses ground game and I would be all wrapped up, so I would dig in the pressure points right under the ear or inbetween the ribs to get them to squirm and loosen up there grip so I could break there hold. Also, what about digging your elbow to your opponents inside thigh to break through there guard? Anyways, my beleif is that pressure points do have there place in MMA just don't fool yourself into thinking it'll be a way to finish the fight.

[cakegirl]

Some tournaments that I've been in have had a "no pressure points" clause written into the rules. Others don't mention it.