Kimura from the guard

[Adept]

Wow, Omo, I had no idea you could be THAT stupid...here's the reply i was talking about...oh my, and you say I have no brain? Might wanna check yourself first since you "missed" my post. It was on page 1, had you ANY brains, you would've known. Oh wait, never mind, you've proven here you don't have any so I'll just quote myself. Have fun, "tough" guy.

Originally Posted by Adept

Might wanna re-read that. I said FIGHTING IN MMA, not teaching or doing grappling only tourneys. I also WAS NOT bashing on Rolls Gracie, if anything, I have the greatest respect for him. Homo, I mean uh Omo, please POINT OUT where I bashed Rolls? I only said he was dead and that you need to stop pretending you're technical LIKE HIM. Never once did I bash a Gracie, let alone Rolls. And I already know he trained Rickson who is NOW RETIRED from MMA. Need I specify EVERYTHING for you? Okay, I'll RE-WORD for you, Homo I mean uh Omo.

"Please list ANY MIXED MARTIAL ARTISTS that is trained by Rolls Gracie that is NOW CURRENTLY FIGHTING in MMA and NOT GRAPPLING ONLY."

Is that better?

No, you didn't just "point out a common mistake," you indeed did critisize how today's MMA fighters can't pull a Kimura from guard and you give shit tips on how to pull moves you can't even do yourself. And yeah, to be able to give tips on how to...no wait, I'm sorry, let me WORD IT SPECIFICALLY for you Homo, I mean uh Omo. To give PROPER AND CORRECT advice on how to apply BJJ moves in MMA, you need actually do it yourself. What are you, Omo, another Marc Laimon on TUF 4? Please THINK before you speak. It's like giving tips to a COMPETITIVE swimmer that he/she needs to swing their arms wider if they wanna get a faster start up in swimming, but you NEVER swam yourself.

Back to my original "bashing", it's EASY to say one thing and do another. You "point out a common mistake" but you have NO IDEA how hard it is to pull a Kimura from the guard with punches being thrown into your face.

Dean Lister isn't a Rolls Gracie trained MMA fighter, although he's good. I said a ROLLS GRACIE STUDENT, not the student of Rolls Gracies's students. But this Rolls Gracie thing is really uh out of relevance. I simply said you're NOT technical like Rolls. Maybe I hit a soft spot on you?

Now that I think about it, maybe I should've used the term HYPOCRITE instead. Again, GJJ/BJJ is NOT, I repeat, NOT MMA.


Actually, you can. Omo just listed some people who isn't a direct Rolls trained MMA, that's, MMA fighter minus Rickson, who's long retired. Who you trying to fool, Omo? You list....irrevelant names. I said MMA fighters, not GJJ-only fighters. But again, Rolls Gracie or his MMA fighters aren't relevant to this issue. Whether Rolls' students compete in current MMA or not, still won't take away the issue that you're a hypocrite still, Omo.

And on a side note, I also gave an opinion that pulling a Kimura from the guard is not as easy as one thinks. And you blow up to pieces, Omo? Who's hitting whose soft spot? Hmm? Please feel free to make some excuses for your behavior.

Social Psychology is my soccer field, son.

I can see why 90 percent of everyone on this forum argues with you in every other topic. You most likely have a mental disorder that's called the Dunning-Kruger effect, which means you think you know it all but you really don't. Sad really. Maybe you spent too much time under GJJ influence or something.

[DJColdfusion]

First: I apologize for trying to get this discussion back on-topic

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

I keep seeing these guys in MMA going for Kimuras from their guard. ITs an excellent No Gi/Gi move, but the foundation for it is to start a sweep so the opponent puts his arm down to make base, when he does that you grab the arm. I see many guys just reaching back and trying to take the arm, wont work like that, not too often. And when you cant get the arm you can go for the guillitine

Second, the "bump sweep" is just one setup for the Kimura from guard. It works as a setup when your opponent posts their hand in defense of the sweep. The "trigger" for the Kimura is you opponent posting their hand on the ground or on your hips while you are sitting up for the sweep.

Try looking for the hand touching the mat when you do, as mentioned above, the bump sweep, scissor sweeps, and really anytime you are forcing side to side or backwards motion.

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

First: I apologize for trying to get this discussion back on-topic



Second, the "bump sweep" is just one setup for the Kimura from guard. It works as a setup when your opponent posts their hand in defense of the sweep. The "trigger" for the Kimura is you opponent posting their hand on the ground or on your hips while you are sitting up for the sweep.

Try looking for the hand touching the mat when you do, as mentioned above, the bump sweep, scissor sweeps, and really anytime you are forcing side to side or backwards motion.

Yep and that was my point, the MMA guys very very rarely, i dont think ever, set it up that way.
Oh and we should call that Adept clown, Inept much better fit, im done BURNING that lil hee haw

[Adept]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

Yep and that was my point, the MMA guys very very rarely, i dont think ever, set it up that way.
Oh and we should call that Adept clown, Inept much better fit, im done BURNING that lil hee haw

And we should call that Omo clown, Homo. Oh no wait, we do already...hum. Oh yeah, and my post was a counter-point to your criticism of MMA fighters doing Kimura from the guard, but you just blew up instead like I hit your soft spot. But anyways.

You got "demolished" in my last post, so you go back to what I profiled you to do already, which is name calling like you're a ten year old kid. You probably are 10.

You're too easy, Homo.

Have a nice day.

[DJColdfusion]

Hey, I have an idea! This doesn't happen too often, having an idea that is, so listen up

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How about you two take your little girl fight some where else and lets get this thread back on topic.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

NO, its a bundle of nerves in a snakes head (also worms, and catfish), it isnt quite developed enough to call it a brain. So as with that idiot that posted, he doesnt 'quite' have a brain, so we'll call it an excuse for a brain, an anterior ganglion. Poor fella that guy.
Far as the eye goes i dont recall anything that sounds like that term, maybe the aqueous humor?

Well the ganglion cells are definitly in the eye, maybe there are just different types?

[J-Luck]

Ummm adept, no offense, but why is this thread so pointless? It seems to me that Oma brought up a point he thought needed addressing, in the proper forum... And believe me, I'm no far of Oma as he knows lol, but he doesn't seem to have done anything to warrant the abuse your shelling out in his direction.

[Adept]

Originally Posted by J-Luck

Ummm adept, no offense, but why is this thread so pointless? It seems to me that Oma brought up a point he thought needed addressing, in the proper forum... And believe me, I'm no far of Oma as he knows lol, but he doesn't seem to have done anything to warrant the abuse your shelling out in his direction.

None taken. I didn't say this thread was pointless, just that it's easy to say one thing and harder to do the action. I stated an OPINION, but as usual, Omo blows it out of proportion with his name calling. I did not start the insults first, except maybe telling Omo he's not technical like Rolls Gracie which isn't really an insult itself. This was my first post on this thread:

Originally Posted by Adept

Ahem, to show their GJJ "technicality", of course. Rolls Gracie is dead. You guys can stop now.

"Kimura from the Guard"...I wonder what they'll post next? "How to NOT get your back mounted"? I also see that a lot in MMA.

Executing the Kimura from the guard is a LOT harder than you think. Try sweeping someone while he's punching you in the face so you can get a Kimura. The psychology alone will tire you out.

I was talking in a jokingly way with Samurai. I don't see me being harsh in stating my own opinion and experience of trying for a Kimura in the guard while being punched in my face. But I did not start the insults, for sure.

Look at Omo's reply to my first post and you'll see.