Ortiz vs Shamrock 3 - 10/10 - live and free

[dizzyboy]

I like the way they're putting this fight on free tv. Shamrock vs Lidell will NEVER take place. Tuesday is Ken's final match ever. He is retiring. Not to mention even if he did win, he isn't anywhere near the #1 contender's spot!

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=Even...htCard&eid=221

[ultimatefan]

I actually think Tito is a better fighter than he previously was. He is MUCH smarter and his conditioning is better as well. Now, that doesnt mean I think he would beat the Iceman or Frank Shamrock but I do think they would be great fights. As far as Rashad Evans goes, I think Tito would pick him apart. I dont think he is that good. He has been given a bunch of cans to fight. Once he starts getting to some bigger names, I think he will move on to another organization. In this next fight, Tito should dominate Ken Shamrock again. I dont see anything changing. What Im really interested in seeing is all the undercard fights. They should all be good.

[OmaPlata]

Originally Posted by ultimatefan

I actually think Tito is a better fighter than he previously was. He is MUCH smarter and his conditioning is better as well. Now, that doesnt mean I think he would beat the Iceman or Frank Shamrock but I do think they would be great fights. As far as Rashad Evans goes, I think Tito would pick him apart. I dont think he is that good. He has been given a bunch of cans to fight. Once he starts getting to some bigger names, I think he will move on to another organization. In this next fight, Tito should dominate Ken Shamrock again. I dont see anything changing. What Im really interested in seeing is all the undercard fights. They should all be good.

Rashad would give Tito fits. Id go with Rashad in that fight, hes really impressive. Frank Shamrock already gave Tito a beatdown, that fight wont happen again. Shamrock turned down 'millions' to fight Franklin in the UFC, he doesnt like the UFC people, apparently they fucked him over at some point. Too bad, Frank (undefeated in the UFC) would still be champ.
Ken would get dropped by Liddel pretty fast, but he does have a good chance, better than most, of getting chuck to the ground. Once there, Ken would dominate.
I hope Ken KO"s tito.

Thives vs Allessio is the best fight on the card, which they prolly won show, uness Tito ends Ken in 20 seconds again

[ultimatefan]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

I hope Ken KO"s tito.

I dont think so.I think Tito will finish strong. I think he has become a better fighter than he previously was.But the fight itself is something to look forward to.

[killermoves]

Ken has lost 5 of his 6 last fights, challenging Tito everytime he loses is just asking to be made fun of. He better win this next one or is reputation is pretty much a joke.

[dizzyboy]

Shamrock is a little old at like 42-ish or something for the UFC fights now and Ortiz is about 10 years younger. Shamrock is a tough SOB but I think that the age difference will be a huge factor. Luckily the we have a promisingly good undercard..

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

Rashad would give Tito fits. Id go with Rashad in that fight, hes really impressive. Frank Shamrock already gave Tito a beatdown, that fight wont happen again. Shamrock turned down 'millions' to fight Franklin in the UFC, he doesnt like the UFC people, apparently they fucked him over at some point. Too bad, Frank (undefeated in the UFC) would still be champ.
Ken would get dropped by Liddel pretty fast, but he does have a good chance, better than most, of getting chuck to the ground. Once there, Ken would dominate.
I hope Ken KO"s tito.

Thives vs Allessio is the best fight on the card, which they prolly won show, uness Tito ends Ken in 20 seconds again

Wow. Perfect post Oma. I definitly agree with the Rashad v Tito, and I certainly hope Tito gets KO'ed.

[J-Luck]

I thought it was pretty funny that after Chuck beat Babalu, he goes "where is that big head?" when asked about Tito. Chuck's the man.

[Motion]

This fight reminded me of the Royce vs Hughes fight.

Old school against new school. New school fighter takes the fight to the ground and the fight ends with refere stoping the fight because of blows to Shamrock similar to what happened to Royce.

[killermoves]

Well at least they are friends now.. lol.. I wish luck for the old guy.. hope there's no more rematch

[dizzyboy]

If by some crazy chance Shamrock wins... does he get tito's title shot? That would be funny as hell... tito is dumb taking this fight... nothing to gain. And YES no more rematch please...

[3mptin3ss]

the match ended just like the previous one. did you see how tito just muscled ken over into the fence like it was nothing?

[ultimatefan]

Yeah i saw it empty.It was awesome.The last minutes were both nice and funny though. Ken got up and went over to shake hands with Tito(after Tito flipped him off) and after Ken finally got Tito's attention they shook hands and buried the hatchet. Both guys hugged and raised each others arms.I though it was so touching...

[47MartialMan]

Poor Ken is all washed up.
All fighters soon have to retire

[SamuraiGuy]

Originally Posted by OmaPlata

Rashad would give Tito fits. Id go with Rashad in that fight, hes really impressive. Frank Shamrock already gave Tito a beatdown, that fight wont happen again. Shamrock turned down 'millions' to fight Franklin in the UFC, he doesnt like the UFC people, apparently they fucked him over at some point. Too bad, Frank (undefeated in the UFC) would still be champ.
Ken would get dropped by Liddel pretty fast, but he does have a good chance, better than most, of getting chuck to the ground. Once there, Ken would dominate.
I hope Ken KO"s tito.

Thives vs Allessio is the best fight on the card, which they prolly won show, uness Tito ends Ken in 20 seconds again

KEN WOULD DOMINATE CHUCK? ON THE GROUND?? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?

wow.... thats.. wow....

Lidell, NCAA division 1 wrestler, X 2, at least bjj purple belt.... wow.. Shamrock was good on the ground when no one knew what they were doing on the ground..... dude... thats just... I hope that was a typo.