Wrestling to improve grappling

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by danfaggella

I don't really care all that much if my wrestling isn't fantastic, ...)

Great, then I'm sure you'll achieve that goal.

[danfaggella]

That goal of being a fantastic wrestler? It isn't a goal.

Anyways, as trianglechoke said, as long as I don't inturupt practice to fit MY little needs (which I don't), then its alright to work on specific things. So, if I wanted to stay for an extra 10 minutes after practice with a state champ from Jersey to learn how to get better at leg wrestling because it helps my grappling, thats acceptable and logical. If I want to work specifically on sertain clinches and takedowns (throws, trips) durring my live wrestling because I feel it will aide my grappling, that is also acceptable and logical, yes?

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by danfaggella

That goal of being a fantastic wrestler? It isn't a goal.

No, your goal seems to be to become a piss-poor, half-ass wrestler. That, I am sure you will accomplish.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by danfaggella

I go to URI, and yeah I plan to at least check out Borrelli MMA. I have to drive 45 mins out and 45 mins back to train at santos' a few times a week, so I think a place in West Kingston (right near URI) would be nice. I don't know how good this Borrelli guy is good or if the class schedule/class enphasis will be to my liking. However I plan to go there and check it.

Also, I don't really care all that much if my wrestling isn't fantastic, I'm basically there to supliment my grappling. This doesn't mean I wont be going for the pin or that I'll throw armbars in wrestling, but it does mean that I'll be working a bit harder on moves that fit best into submission grappling (thowing legs and using pins that may double as submissions, switches, takedowns that will also work out well in grappling [taking the back in the standing position], ect...)

As far as the emphasis, I think it should be a grappling based place, with Santos and Burrill there and all. And as you know, Burrill is a blackbelt under Carlos Machado so he's the real deal.

I don't know what to tell you man, wrestling to your full potential will allow you to be a better grappler, period. Wrestling, I believe, is the most complete grappling style, as far as positioning goes.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by danfaggella

That goal of being a fantastic wrestler? It isn't a goal.

Anyways, as trianglechoke said, as long as I don't inturupt practice to fit MY little needs (which I don't), then its alright to work on specific things. So, if I wanted to stay for an extra 10 minutes after practice with a state champ from Jersey to learn how to get better at leg wrestling because it helps my grappling, thats acceptable and logical. If I want to work specifically on sertain clinches and takedowns (throws, trips) durring my live wrestling because I feel it will aide my grappling, that is also acceptable and logical, yes?

Well of course it is. But don't slack in other areas I think is the point. Don't not belly out because you feel it's illogical when pulling guard is obviously more effective. My point isn't that you can't work on certain things more, but just try to become well rounded.

When did URI get a team? I know that back in the day they were one of the only D-1 teams in New England, but as far as I knew their team was still gone. Is it a club?

[J-Luck]

Also, Danfagella, have you tried Mayo Quanchi Judo out? FANTASTIC CLUB. It's one of the best clubs in the country, and it's in West Warwick(a lil bit of a trek for ya though). Every thurs they have a wrestling night(the sensei is a wrestler too) and they focus ALOT on ne waza. And I know you're big into that. Fantastic traingin ethic, practicality, and they win so many competitions(a bunch of them are well on their way to the olympics).

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Take some advice from some of the state placers in wrestling here, I know we have a few. Believe it or not, Jubaji's one of them

[danfaggella]

I just figure if I work on specific techniques that work in wrestling AND grappling that is logical, its not like I'm pulling guard and working armbars in my wrestling practice.

URI has had a wrestling team for a few years, it used to be just one grad student on the team trying to start it, but last year I halped him out and we got a bunch of kids, and now the grad student s pretty much gone but myself and a fellow wrestler run the club team, we set up matches and go to tounaments and do all the dirty work.

Yeah I've been to mayo, but its like 40 bucks for a USA judo pass, for the year i think, then its 10 bucks a class. Classes are shorter than santos' and its 90% middle school kids. I love judo, and in the 2 times ive visited and participated i learned a good amount, but santos' establishment is a bit closer, a bit cheeper, and it has all adults in it.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by J-Luck

When did URI get a team? I know that back in the day they were one of the only D-1 teams in New England,

Back in what day was that?

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by danfaggella

I just figure if I work on specific techniques that work in wrestling AND grappling that is logical, its not like I'm pulling guard and working armbars in my wrestling practice.

URI has had a wrestling team for a few years, it used to be just one grad student on the team trying to start it, but last year I halped him out and we got a bunch of kids, and now the grad student s pretty much gone but myself and a fellow wrestler run the club team, we set up matches and go to tounaments and do all the dirty work.

Yeah I've been to mayo, but its like 40 bucks for a USA judo pass, for the year i think, then its 10 bucks a class. Classes are shorter than santos' and its 90% middle school kids. I love judo, and in the 2 times ive visited and participated i learned a good amount, but santos' establishment is a bit closer, a bit cheeper, and it has all adults in it.

Yea, that's what I meant, so you guys don't ACTUALLY have a team. But yea that's cool.

70 a month, which is wayyyyyyyyyy less than 10 a class. So if price is one reason you don't like it there then you got it all wrong. And yea, there are alot of younger people, but as far as size goes, I'm only 155-160. And I dont know about middle school. I would say the two main groups there, the younger than 10 group and then there is a 15-19 group. I'm turning 18 this month, and due to my size also, it's really not bad at all. And like I said, you're not going to find many classes better than theirs in the US. Literally their that good there.

As far as Santos, what's his class like? I know I see him at Tim's and he's a brownbelt under Tim. Does he teach some bjj? Or is it more of a standup/striking thing?

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by jubaji

Back in what day was that?

Why... do you know of any D-1 teams in New England? (not meant sarcastically, it just sounds that way).

[jubaji]

How about Boston University, Harvard, Brown, Sacred Heart, Coast Guard (I'm not sure about that one), formerly Boston College and UNH before they were sacrificed on the altar of political correctness, a few others in CT I think but I can't recall them right now.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by jubaji

How about Boston University, Harvard, Brown, Sacred Heart, Coast Guard (I'm not sure about that one), formerly Boston College and UNH before they were sacrificed on the altar of political correctness, a few others in CT I think but I can't recall them right now.

Harvard is D-2 I believe, so is brown, actually brown might be d-3. I don't think there are any D-1 New England teams.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by J-Luck

Harvard is D-2 I believe, so is brown, actually brown might be d-3. I don't think there are any D-1 New England teams.

You are wrong. Harvard and Brown wrestle Div. 1, and you have apparently ignored the rest of the list. Boston U, and Sacred Heart to name a few more.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by jubaji

You are wrong. Harvard and Brown wrestle Div. 1, and you have apparently ignored the rest of the list. Boston U, and Sacred Heart to name a few more.

Are you certain. Because I am not. But I know in New England, our wrestling programs suck compared to other areas of the country(that you can't debate). I might have falsly assumed.