How Would You Describe This?

[Motion]

People on Youtube can't seem to decide on what type of fighting this is. What does it look like to you? Have any of you been to or competed in this type of competition?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVsHu7wLMQ

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by Motion

People on Youtube can't seem to decide on what type of fighting this is. What does it look like to you? Have any of you been to or competed in this type of competition?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVsHu7wLMQ

Lol... it looks like EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS IT IS... full contact jiu-jitsu...

[Motion]

Yeah you can say that,but some mentioned it to be a kind of hybrid of European JJ & BJJ with strikes.

[kuk sool won]

whats different about European JJ?

[Paco]

Didn't Graciela Casillas' husband - Ernie Boggs- represent this style in the US?

[Motion]

Originally Posted by kuk sool won

whats different about European JJ?

This is the closes thing I could find on this.

" German Ju-Jutsu is a martial art related to Japanese Jujutsu, developed in Germany using techniques from various traditional and modern martial arts. The system is used by the German police forces

History

In 1967, members of the Deutsche Dan-Kollegium (DDK, German Dan Council) started developing a new self defense system mainly based on Judo, Karate, and Aikido, all three styles in turn being based on or influenced by traditional Japanese Jujutsu. A lot of emphasis was put on techniques which could be used in real life situations.... "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Ju-Jutsu

[sapatiero]

there's no european jiu jitsu, only japanese or brazilian as far as I know. jjj includes striking & kicks but most sensei's play it safe & only teach semi-contact.

...But there are plenty of guys who claim to teach their own blend of jjj & call it something different. Either way, none of it holds a candle to the combination of bjj & muai thai imo

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

The competition in that video just looked like BJJ with no knees to the head, no elbows, no stomps or futbol kicks ofcoarse lol, no high slamming from guard, but allowed punching and kicking to the head, and kneeing to the body. Any MMA fighter would smash those guys into peanut butter, BTW.

[3mptin3ss]

Originally Posted by sapatiero

there's no european jiu jitsu, only japanese or brazilian as far as I know.

supposedly jiu jitsu has roots in many regions of the earth, including germany, egypt, and iran. people in those regions still practice it to this day.

"As to the origin and native land of Ju Jutsu, there are several opinions, but they are found to be mere assumptions based on narratives relating to the founding of certain schools, or some incidental records or illustrations found in the ancient manuscripts not only in Japan but in China, Persia, Germany, and Egypt. There is no record by which the origins of Ju Jutsu can be definitely established. It would, however, be rational to assume that ever since the creation, with the instinct of self-preservation, man has had to figbt for existence, and was inspired to develop an art or skill to implement the body mechanism for this purpose. In such efforts, the development may have taken various courses according to the condition of life or tribal circumstance, but the object and mechanics of the body being common, the results could not have been so very different from each other. No doubt this is the reason for finding records relating to the practice of arts similar to Ju Jutsu in various parts of the world, and also for the lack of records of its origins."
---- Sensei G. Koizumi, Kodokan 7th Dan

[sapatiero]

Originally Posted by 3mptin3ss

supposedly jiu jitsu has roots in many regions of the earth, including germany, egypt, and iran. people in those regions still practice it to this day.

"As to the origin and native land of Ju Jutsu...

The distant origins of jj are a completely different debate. Today there are two main styles of jj - japanese and brazilian. Any art that has so much in it (jjj) will have many different variants as each generation brings instructors that tailor it a little, then try to re-invent it as their own brand. To a certain extent, this is all the gracies did, but their 'tailoring' worked and became globally recognised.

[Blue Wave Gym]

Looks like mma with gi's on, done on a mat to me. I would be great if events like this were held weekly or monthly here in the U.S. particularly in the form of an open style(anyone can enter) mma tournament
I'd definately show up

[sapatiero]

There are a few tournaments like this in the UK. They're seen as the step between semi-contact jiu jitsu or submission grappling and full contact pro rules MMA.

One local to me is called 'Grapple & Strike' and has rules like no headshots on the ground & no elbows. The first G&S had more guys wearing gi's & were mat based, but more recently they've become more like pro MMA with a ring etc. Some guys here will cut their teeth on something like G&S before moving onto Cage Rage or Cage Warriors.

http://www.grappleandstrike.co.uk/

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

yep. it is what it says. mind you, this is relatively new terminology.

for many years there was some controversy over who the legitimate kickboxing champions in europe were.

but why? so glad you asked...

because any kind of full contact sport was called kickboxing... including jiujitsu and even judo.

but, lorenzodamarith, there has been judo and jiujitsu in europe for years... isn't that a contradiction?

at first glance yes. the styles bore thier standard names... the contests were called kickboxing.

but, why would they give a sport such a couterintuitive name?

because, there were other styles represented that included striking (such as cambo). some players drew skills from two or more styles, some only one.

mma with a gi has been in europe for a long time (not necessarily prolific, but definitely present). jeanclaudevandamme was accused of fraud over his title of vicechampion kickboxer in europe. well, actually he was primarily a grappler with some karate. but the sport (the shows) was called kickboxing.

but, what does this have to do with the question at hand? what is this style actually called?

anything you like. in practical sense, it appears to be an amalgam of jiujitsu and/or judo, karate and/or boxing.... with a gi.

if you were to check out the combat cambo tournaments held in new york by stephenkoepfer (american sambo association) you will see a lot of similarities. mind you, the specific rules are likely very different.

hope this helps. enjoy.... american and brazilian jiujitsu intructors are now in europe in force.... so expect thier game to get a lot better in the next few years!!!

thanks