BJJ & regular Jiujitsu

[Hardball]

Just to add; at my Dojo (JJJ) We ground spar (roll) and stand up spar in gear. It all depends on the background of the instructor.

[Itachi]

so it is more or less how the person who is teaching you a) wants to teach certin way. b.) tradition. c.) the way he was tought.
Besides the ways things are tought grapples and submisions are the same?

[Tant01]

Originally Posted by JkD187

I made a pretty big response awhile ago ill dig it up for you.

JJJ is the grandfather art(s) of Judo and BJJ. There is no technique in BJJ that can not be found in traditional Kodokan Judo. (Jujutsu)

[sapatiero]

Uh oh. Duck & cover time...

I've done judo, jjj and bjj. Bjj is far superior for groundwork, but some judo standup is great to go with it (especially grip work).

[IPON]

Originally Posted by Itachi

so it is more or less how the person who is teaching you a) wants to teach certin way. b.) tradition. c.) the way he was tought.
Besides the ways things are tought grapples and submisions are the same?

Welcome!!

Your AB &C are somewhat true, there are many styles of Jujutsu basically Jujutsu focuses on strikes, kicks, pressure point attack, strangulation (chokes), throws, bone breaking, joint locks, etc. However, the philosophy of each ryu can vary and some techniques will vary. If you are looking to find a good school you need to ask the instructor what is the philosophy and what type of students is he training. For example, if he says it is for self defense only, how is that accomplished in the class training. Jujutsu is very good even now or especially now, but a bad school is a bad school. I have seen jujutsu so bad it actually looked like pantomime and I have seen it on the other side of brutal and hardcore.

Regarding grappling and submission the answer is yes and no. Again it really comes to philosophy Ju Jutsu is used to eliminate destroy an opponent/attacker. Judo and BJJ can be used to eliminate and destroy an opponent /attacker. Submissions as a term, generally speaking, are for sports good Jujutsu is not trained for sport. The Judo I was taught focused on SD and sport, in BJJ there are certainly Dojos that have SD and tech stand up. However, taking a fight to the ground and ground fighting are not the same. In Jujutsu(generally speaking), you would always want to stay on your feet as much as possible so taking an opponent to the ground just takes their weapons away leg arm, head teeth nail etc. While BJJ has stand-up techniques the typical emphasis is to ground fight. So there is a similar philosophy in taking the opponent to the ground and remove his weapons, BJJ takes the stance of actually fighting and destroying the enemy on the ground. In Jujutsu that would be a last resort, while you do roll in Jujutsu the emphasis to return to standing base. Which is best is the stuff of debate and at the end of the day it depends on what you are most comfortable and what your goals are. If you want to be able to complete then Judo or BJJ as there should be no dojo emphasizing competition for Jujusu. If you want SD only you should check all three types of schools if available to you. If you want MMA BJJ or Judo should be your focus. You may want to cross train as well JJJ/Judo, JJJ/BJJ or Judo/BJJ or none. Grappling arts are great to learn but its not for everyone. Good luck!!