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    BJJ & regular Jiujitsu

    What are the differences? Between BJJ and japanese style of Jiujitsu


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    This is an old topic; you can do a search and find a ton of threads on it. Some are in the Japanese forumn. Hint: JJJ is cousins with judo and BJJ is Judo ground work.
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    My bad i am new to this forum

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    Didn't mean to sound blunt; it's just the typing. LOL
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    This is one of those questions that comes up so much that it might be useful to have a thread defining the difference stickied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Lu View Post
    This is one of those questions that comes up so much that it might be useful to have a thread defining the difference stickied.
    Good idea maybe one of the Moderators will pick up on it.
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    yea that would help then ppl like me wont look to dumb : P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardball View Post
    Good idea maybe one of the Moderators will pick up on it.

    I think it would be helpful. Hell, I'd write it up myself except that I've never done either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    yea that would help then ppl like me wont look to dumb : P


    Don't sweat it, everyone was new at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    yea that would help then ppl like me wont look to dumb : P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    What are the differences? Between BJJ and japanese style of Jiujitsu
    That's not a dumb question. Do a search and you'll find it.

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    I made a pretty big response awhile ago ill dig it up for you.
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    The three major differences of BJJ and JJJ are as follows.

    1.Techniques:The techniques of jjj are meant to be a complete system,Which means it includes strikes,grappling,throwing,controlling and arresting,weapons offense and defense,self defense,killing or crippling techniques,locks and so on and so forth.Most of these techniques require excellent fine motor functions which are hard to apply under pressure,i.e:threading a needle after running a mile,While the techniques of bjj are mostly takedowns and ground controling and finishing holds.Most bjj techniques are high percentage moves which use gross motor functions which are much easier to apply under pressure,i.e:running away from someone chasing you.

    2.Training Method:This is where the two arts are really seperated in terms of effectiveness and realism.JJJ's training method is to train in kata's and one and two step sparring to learn combat moves in very telegraphed ways.There is no resistance on the other persons part and therefor no one gains functional skills in all areas of fighting but rather just an assortment of techniques for demo purposes.BJJ's training method is to train with an uncooperative opponent and sparring with someone who is actually traying to beat you as well.From this type of training under resistance...timing...energy and motion real skills that can be used under pressure are honed in battle fit weapons.

    3.Stragety:JJJ's stragety is to go with the flow of combat,Your opponents move is your move,Counter whatever he brings to the table....however this is a very hard thing to do if you do not have the attributes for combat trained from resistance training which is why many people view JJJ as ineffective for this day and age.BJJ's stragety however is a systamitic approach that can be used in every battle...every time.The stragety is to bypass the striking range and go into the clinch range,From the clinch range look to take your opponent down and flow into a dominant position on the ground to apply strikes and the finishing hold to end the fight.The big difference in stragety is that most of the time going with the flow means you must be in a defensive mode which is not so good for self-defense,Also the self defense techniques of JJJ use scenarios in which you must execute technique after technique in a pattern to stop something just a simple punch.In real combat fights involve movement and it would be very hard to apply those techniques when a person is resiting and trying to hit you back.BJJ's stragety is to bypass the striking range by whatever way you can based on the situation,their is no set tecnique but rather just attributes like timing,speed and power.In the clinch range its the same takedown the opponent by using whatever is there....a hip toss...single leg...double leg etc etc.On the ground it is yet again the same look for whatever technique is open and take it to finish the fight,Nothing is ever telegraphed everything is based on science of simplicity and movement.

    In conclusion JJJ can gain alot by the training method of BJJ by injecting realism in the art and BJJ can learn from JJJ's concept of the complete fighter....bolth can be deadly arts,all it depends on is how the art is trained...who it is trained under and how good the people training are.
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    omg thanks man that is so much help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    omg thanks man that is so much help.
    Your welcome....if you need anything else lemme know...also welcome to the site!
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