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Old 11-15-2006, 11:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm a fairly new guy at BJJ, been training for a little less than a year and I'm having alittle trouble. I've got down the basics (basic armbar, triangle, etc) but, first off, I'm not tapping anyone except a few really new guys. I'm aware most of the other guys have been doing this longer than me but it's beginning to frustrate me abit. I have trouble with more advanced moves and with getting/maintaining positions. I'm aware people can only do so much online but any advice/help would be great!
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here's 4 things that may help...

1. do you think about the techniques before you do them? this is normal initially. The key is to drill your favourite techniques with a partner, grappling dummy or horizontal punchbag until you're blue in the face, then drill them some more. Then the techniques will become subconscious and there'll be less pauses in your grappling.

2. Combine these techniques into combinations that include counters to the opponents normal defenses. then drill the combinations until you're blue in the face...

3. When grappling, initiate these combinations and don't let your opponent dictate the play.

4. It's all in the mat time. Enjoy it and pay the dues to get the results.

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I think Sapatiero pretty much hit the nail on the head.

All I'd add is that there is a lot more to all techniques. particularly the basic ones, than you would initially believe. Quite often the difference between a technique working and not working is maybe 1/2 inch in your grip, or a subtle shift in your hips.

If you've not been training on the ground for long you probably understand the gross motor movements involved in a technique but have a long way to go to actually apply them consistently to a resisting opponent.

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Thanks guys, I'll keep drilling then
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I like to write down the major steps of a takedown, sweep, submision or maybe a combination of all on a sheet of paper. Then think it out and remember those steps. Last but not least like sapatiero said, do them and drill with them until you don't even have to think about the steps.
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Quite often the difference between a technique working and not working is maybe 1/2 inch in your grip, or a subtle shift in your hips.
This is very true. I am still very new at BJJ. I have only been doing it for about a year or so. I learned the omoplata a while ago, but only this past 2 weeks have I learned the real details of it. I always thought the omoplata was not a move for me. Like how most think, "Ah. That's a nice move. But it doesn't work for me". Most moves can work for most people, they just need a little more attention. In my example I only used the omoplata as a sweep setup, not as a submission. But my new instructor told me something that changed my omoplata greatly. You have to make sure his shoulder is on the ground and move your but away from him to get his shoulder flat and then raise your hips (this greatly increases the effectiveness of the omplata). If he is flexible at the shoulder joint, then begin to move your but away from him more further flatting out the shoulder and in a counter-clockwise direction (if locking his right arm and clockwise if locking his left arm).

With that being said, try ask your instructor or a senior student this: "Hey I kinda know this move, but could you really show the fine details of it. I usually do this, but it doesn't always work."

Also, same as for the triangle, you should raise your hips a little to create more pressure on the neck, but too much and he can escape. Mat time has probably been my greatest tool. Roll as much as possible so you can find what you have trouble in while in real situations. Don't get me wrong, drills are awesome and should be done as much as possible also. But when I frequently get stuck in half guard while rolling, I know to drill that position.

Good luck and keep up the hard work.
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I'm a fairly new guy at BJJ, been training for a little less than a year and I'm having alittle trouble. I've got down the basics (basic armbar, triangle, etc) but, first off, I'm not tapping anyone except a few really new guys. I'm aware most of the other guys have been doing this longer than me but it's beginning to frustrate me abit. I have trouble with more advanced moves and with getting/maintaining positions. I'm aware people can only do so much online but any advice/help would be great!
SINCE YOU ARE NEW, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU STAY FOCUSED ON THE BASIC TECHNIQUES AND TRY TO GET THEM DOWN AS GOOD AS YOU CAN BEFORE GOING ON TO THE MORE ADVANCED MOVES. I KNOW THAT "TAPPING OTHER PEOPLE OUT" SEEMS TO BE WHAT MANY PEOPLE MEASURE THEIR PROGRESS BY, BUT IF YOU DO NOT GET A GOOD FOUNDATION IN YOUR BASIC TECHNIQUES, YOU WILL MOST LIKELY CONTINUE TO BE FRUSTRATED BY YOUR LACK OF "TAP OUTS".
SO, MY ADVICE IS:
1- LEARN THE BASICS TO THE POINT THAT THEY BECOME SECOND NATURE.
2- RELAX AND TRY TO GET THE "TIMING" FOR THE MOVES.
3- GET YOUR POSITION BEFORE YOU TRY FOR THE SUBMISSION.
4- REALIZE THAT EVERYONE LEARNS DIFFERETLEY AND HAS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF STRENGTH, FLEXIBILITY (RANGE OF MOTION) AND TIMING.

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well getting frustrated is one of the biggest thangs to over come in bjj,because its complacated in a way,but i dont know who you train at your school but drilling the moves,and i dont mean just one i mean 5 or 6 moves at a time like if you grappling drill that for half the class and i mean intense and then work those moves into your grappling.
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Let me just say this.... cause this probably doubled or tripled my submissions on newer guys.

If you have gaurd, reach up and pull his head or arms down onto you. Than move your hips.


Posture and hip movement, doubled or tripled my submissions. Most basic thing, think about it, one of the best grapplers in the world, if not thee best, Roger Gracie, is all about the gaurd, and all about the basics.
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