The SUPERIOR MARTIAL ART

[sanjiyan99]

There is only ONE martial art that is superior to the rest. With very little training, and a few simple moves you can seriously injure or kill ten grandmasters in as little as a few seconds. That martial art is gun-fu, in either Smith & Wesson, Colt, Kimber, Berreta, or AK-47. Not to be disrespectful here, but just ask Alex Gong. He would tell you if he could that nothing can surpass the speed, power, and mortality of the firearm.

I have learned that though I bring my body to the brink of exhaustion, pushing it ever more into perfection, and though I hone my skills so that my fists can break apart rocks, EVERYONE from the greatest to the least is equal at the end of the barrel of a gun. Check your local city or state for what is legal in your area.

When I lived in Arizona, I legally carried a gun -- Kimber 1911 Tactical, concealed. Martial arts is great for a workout, but for plain defense, the 1911 .45 caliber is absolutely superior. Most of the time all that is needed is to brandish the gun and the aggressor either surrenders or leaves. Try doing that by assuming a cat stance! Who would win in a fight, Bruce Lee or Jesse James? I'll bet you a million dollars that Jesse James would win the fight alot faster than Bruce Lee can yell like the Fist of the North Star. Would you trust your own skills to keep you alive against a thug high on PCP? Or would you trust that .45 1911?

[DickHardman]

Originally Posted by sanjiyan99

There is only ONE martial art that is superior to the rest. With very little training, and a few simple moves you can seriously injure or kill ten grandmasters in as little as a few seconds. That martial art is gun-fu, in either Smith & Wesson, Colt, Kimber, Berreta, or AK-47. Not to be disrespectful here, but just ask Alex Gong. He would tell you if he could that nothing can surpass the speed, power, and mortality of the firearm.

I have learned that though I bring my body to the brink of exhaustion, pushing it ever more into perfection, and though I hone my skills so that my fists can break apart rocks, EVERYONE from the greatest to the least is equal at the end of the barrel of a gun. Check your local city or state for what is legal in your area.

When I lived in Arizona, I legally carried a gun -- Kimber 1911 Tactical, concealed. Martial arts is great for a workout, but for plain defense, the 1911 .45 caliber is absolutely superior. Most of the time all that is needed is to brandish the gun and the aggressor either surrenders or leaves. Try doing that by assuming a cat stance! Who would win in a fight, Bruce Lee or Jesse James? I'll bet you a million dollars that Jesse James would win the fight alot faster than Bruce Lee can yell like the Fist of the North Star. Would you trust your own skills to keep you alive against a thug high on PCP? Or would you trust that .45 1911?

you cant always carry a gun everywere you go. and not everyone can afford to purchase a gun. knives can be deployed faster than guns in closer areas. not all sd situations require lethal force. you cant shoot some drunk guy for hitting on your gf, unless you want to spend the rest of your life behind bars. guns are cool n all, but they wont solve all your problems.

[PlasmaShock]

but guns are for the weak. wars should be done with hands and feet. thats how a war should be won.

[DickHardman]

i also want to point out that the discipline of wrestling has always been taught to soldiers around the world through history. armies use weapons to kill people, but they still found wrestling to be worth it and here are some of the reasons besides the fighting part that make training in a discipline worthwhile....

"The main objectives of wrestling in military training are:

* Superior balance developed from trying to keep one's balance while at the same time trying to upset the opponent's. In war, falling to the ground can quickly make one vulnerable to weapon thrusts, so good balance is a must for warriors.

* Grip strength and manual dexterity, for the use of weapons and combat gear
* Focused and powerful pushing-power. In combat one must smash or thrust weapons forward at one's adversary.
* The ability to get up quickly if fallen down, a very important survival skill on the battlefield (see above).
* Improved stamina, endurance and strength.
* Physical skills to control prisoners, or to carry wounded comrades.
* Cultivation of aggressiveness and improved reaction time.
* Camaraderie, diversion and entertainment.

Wrestling is a safe way to achieve the above goals since it does not use dangerous objects or weapons."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestli...itary_training

[sanjiyan99]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

you cant always carry a gun everywere you go. and not everyone can afford to purchase a gun. knives can be deployed faster than guns in closer areas. not all sd situations require lethal force. you cant shoot some drunk guy for hitting on your gf, unless you want to spend the rest of your life behind bars. guns are cool n all, but they wont solve all your problems.

I am not saying that guns should be employed in every situation. This is where practical common sense should kick in. A life-threatening situation, however, calls for you to use your most casualty-producing weapon. Sometimes it may be a knife, or your keys. For those living in California or New York it may indeed have to be your feet -- RUN...or KICK your way to victory. However, I am just saying that nobody can deny that no martial art, however trained, can ever equal the firearm. I've trained in Muay Thai before, and know its limitations. Firearms also have their own limitations, but it can end a confrontation much quicker, and in many cases nobody gets hurt (provided that the aggressor flees). Let me STRESS, however, that no matter you preferred method of self-defense, it is only for that purpose -- SELF-DEFENSE. Civilians who legally carry firearms should only use it for that purpose, SELF-DEFENSE or DEFENSE of others.

It's true that knives can be deployed faster than guns in certain areas or situations. Keep in mind, however, that the bullet from the gun travels at 800 mph. No amount of sword or knife training in the world will deflect a bullet. Even if a knife assailant were to come up close and personal with his gun-armed victim, what will happen when that victim is able to pull out their gun and shoot their aggressor in the face? in the knees? in the groin? Serious injury to stop them, right? Maybe even kill them?

YET STILL EVEN IF YOU DO CARRY A FIREARM, IT IS YOUR OWN COMMON SENSE, STREET SMARTS, AND WITS THAT WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE IN A LIFE-THREATENING SITUATION. If you face a person hell-bent on taking your life and you have a gun, FRONT-SIGHT, PRESS. Repeat this drill. Also remember that in most states you cannot legally kill the person unless they are in the "magical 21-foot" range.

[DickHardman]

Originally Posted by sanjiyan99

I am not saying that guns should be employed in every situation. This is where practical common sense should kick in. A life-threatening situation, however, calls for you to use your most casualty-producing weapon. Sometimes it may be a knife, or your keys. For those living in California or New York it may indeed have to be your feet -- RUN...or KICK your way to victory. However, I am just saying that nobody can deny that no martial art, however trained, can ever equal the firearm. I've trained in Muay Thai before, and know its limitations. Firearms also have their own limitations, but it can end a confrontation much quicker, and in many cases nobody gets hurt (provided that the aggressor flees). Let me STRESS, however, that no matter you preferred method of self-defense, it is only for that purpose -- SELF-DEFENSE. Civilians who legally carry firearms should only use it for that purpose, SELF-DEFENSE or DEFENSE of others.

you contradict yourself here by stating that guns have limits, when you stated they were completely superior before.

Originally Posted by sanjiyan99

It's true that knives can be deployed faster than guns in certain areas or situations. Keep in mind, however, that the bullet from the gun travels at 800 mph. No amount of sword or knife training in the world will deflect a bullet. Even if a knife assailant were to come up close and personal with his gun-armed victim, what will happen when that victim is able to pull out their gun and shoot their aggressor in the face? in the knees? in the groin? Serious injury to stop them, right? Maybe even kill them?

hypothetical situations dont mean much to me, because i can say similar things about the knife. what if your gun jams, or run out of bullets? or you forget to take off the safety? then you are done for.

[sanjiyan99]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

you contradict yourself here by stating that guns have limits, when you stated they were completely superior before..

I meant superior, NOT "Almighty".

Originally Posted by DickHardman

hypothetical situations dont mean much to me, because i can say similar things about the knife. what if your gun jams, or run out of bullets? or you forget to take off the safety? then you are done for.

That is why you must get adequate training for the weapon you are using. The firearm is superior here because it requires far less time to train effectively. If you run out of bullets then this means you've either emptied your entire clip into him, your assailant is either dead or near dead. Or, it could mean that you have just committed a felony because unless you are absolutely blind you're not going to miss an assailant that is close to you. If you've hit them and missed multiple times it means that you fired from a great distance and were the aggressor. Get real here. Most attackers get up close to you because they know they NEED the element of surprise. They're looking for a victim, not a fight. They usually do not reveal their intentions to you, and neither do their intentions become clear to you UNTIL they are up close and personal. In a situation regarding a gang shouting obscenities to you from afar, RUN. If cornered, better hope you are packing serious heat because these multiple opponent thugs are dead-set to do you some serious harm.

[WildWest.]

If you live in an area where you need to carry a gun to protect yourself, my advice: Move.

[OmaIs10YearsOld]

Just remember the rule of 21:

A man with a knife within 21 feet of his gun-wielding opponent will get to him quicker before he draws and shoots.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Originally Posted by OmaIs10YearsOld

Just remember the rule of 21:

A man with a knife within 21 feet of his gun-wielding opponent will get to him quicker before he draws and shoots.

yea someone posted a good video of this recently, and the drill was done against cops carrying their weapon in the typical place you see cops carrying, i.e. on the hip out in the open. if they couldn't draw fast enough, how much chance does someone with a concealed weapon have?

as always, i'm not saying one's better than the other, i'm saying everything has its place. it's better to be well rounded, but a gun and an arrogant attitude is a great way to get stabbed.

[eXcessiveForce]

This thread is stupid.

My tactical nuke art will beat any old gun art any day. Lamer

[sanjiyan99]

Originally Posted by eXcessiveForce

This thread is stupid.

My tactical nuke art will beat any old gun art any day. Lamer

As if you will ever have access, much less the launch codes for any nuclear weapon. Mahmood Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong Mentally-iLL beat you to it. But, I wouldn't go around joking about launching any nuclear weapons in this age of terrorism. Jorje Wahabbi Bush would have your head.

[kuk sool won]

See what i do now is have two body guards each with an M-16 and 4 attack dogs. I wear a ballistic vest with slash resistant gloves and of course we cant ignore the head protection.

[MasterGrappler]

Originally Posted by sanjiyan99

There is only ONE martial art that is superior to the rest. With very little training, and a few simple moves you can seriously injure or kill ten grandmasters in as little as a few seconds. That martial art is gun-fu, in either Smith & Wesson, Colt, Kimber, Berreta, or AK-47. Not to be disrespectful here, but just ask Alex Gong. He would tell you if he could that nothing can surpass the speed, power, and mortality of the firearm.

I have learned that though I bring my body to the brink of exhaustion, pushing it ever more into perfection, and though I hone my skills so that my fists can break apart rocks, EVERYONE from the greatest to the least is equal at the end of the barrel of a gun. Check your local city or state for what is legal in your area.

When I lived in Arizona, I legally carried a gun -- Kimber 1911 Tactical, concealed. Martial arts is great for a workout, but for plain defense, the 1911 .45 caliber is absolutely superior. Most of the time all that is needed is to brandish the gun and the aggressor either surrenders or leaves. Try doing that by assuming a cat stance! Who would win in a fight, Bruce Lee or Jesse James? I'll bet you a million dollars that Jesse James would win the fight alot faster than Bruce Lee can yell like the Fist of the North Star. Would you trust your own skills to keep you alive against a thug high on PCP? Or would you trust that .45 1911?

you have to be quicker on the draw and have the stones to pull the trigger. most people cant do either. just having a gun doesnt mean you will shoot it or pull it out on time

[sanjiyan99]

Originally Posted by MasterGrappler

you have to be quicker on the draw and have the stones to pull the trigger. most people cant do either. just having a gun doesnt mean you will shoot it or pull it out on time

That is why you must have training for it. Most states that issue CCW (concealed-carry weapons) permits require training as a requirement for issuance. In some states you must also qualify for marksmanship at the sharpshooter level. I envy our Vermont state residents who are allowed to carry concealed in public without any such permit. That state has the lowest crime rate in the USA.