Takedown troubles

[eliec]

I enrolled recently in a MMA class, and I was doing well, except for one thing:
There's a guy that has 20 kilos over me, and he's very good on the ground, so I shouldn't go down on him unless the submission is already locked in. I thought I'd shoot off his balance with low kicks, then go for an ankle takedown, with a leg lock. Trouble is, I don't know that many leg locks that focus the knees. Any detailed feedback, plz?

[SamuraiGuy]

The only leg locks you'll be able to pull off in an actual fight as a takedown that goes directly into a submission is a flying kneebar.

Type in Imanari on youtube (I believe thats the guy) to see the master of Flying Leg locks in action.


The chances of you getting this though, very, very slim. I dont know if you've heard of a flying armbar or triangle, but up the difficulty and chance to fail by about ten times and you've got a flying kneebar there.

You say he has 20 kilos on you, and the fact that you "dont know many leg locks that focus on the knees" gives me the impression that your somewhat of a beginner. No offense if your not, its just... something you should know, even if your school doesnt train them, you should still know what they are, its kind of like common grappling knowledge.

Have you ever thought about maybe not taking him down? I guss with the 20 kilos you fear standing with him, but if your better than him there, why not. You said you were going to try using leg kicks to put him off balance than take him down. Well if you can constantly kick him in the leg, just do that. If your trying to win, if your trying to learn something you might have to go to another strategy. (You can do it, just dont do it ALL the time).

Even better, try taking him down with a real takedown to a superior position. I know alot (ALOT) of people that are better than me on the ground.... I do however have a chance of beating them if I put them on the ground and am already in side control, north south, etc..

[MasterGrappler]

Originally Posted by eliec

I enrolled recently in a MMA class, and I was doing well, except for one thing:
There's a guy that has 20 kilos over me, and he's very good on the ground, so I shouldn't go down on him unless the submission is already locked in. I thought I'd shoot off his balance with low kicks, then go for an ankle takedown, with a leg lock. Trouble is, I don't know that many leg locks that focus the knees. Any detailed feedback, plz?

Just tie him up and take him down with a throw or a trip. OR grab his right arm, pull it towards you while wrapping your left arm around his neck and, sink in the hooks and finish him while standing with a rnc

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Originally Posted by MasterGrappler

Just tie him up and take him down with a throw or a trip. OR grab his right arm, pull it towards you while wrapping your left arm around his neck and, sink in the hooks and finish him while standing with a rnc

No duh! Easier said than done.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by MasterGrappler

Just tie him up and take him down with a throw or a trip. OR grab his right arm, pull it towards you while wrapping your left arm around his neck and, sink in the hooks and finish him while standing with a rnc

Don't listen to this idiot. Tying up or going for a hip throw on a bigger guy is always a bad idea.

If you're a quick guy(you didn't say if the bigger guy was in better shape or quicker) I would shoot low singles all day. Stay to the outside and look to shoot the low or sweeping singles. Dumps can also work for a smaller guy if you get in quick enough.

[Adept]

Yeah, i think it's obvious "MasterGrappler" is our good friend, OmaPlata, in disguise. How you doing, buddy? Have a good Thanksgiving and all? Yeah? Well, that's nice.

Now back to what's important.

Hmm. I also have trouble sparring with heavier guys in my class, so I find myself using the duck under for some reason. Maybe it'll work for you, maybe it won't. But I'd give it a try, though, if you haven't already.

My 2 cents.

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by Adept

Yeah, i think it's obvious "MasterGrappler" is our good friend, OmaPlata, in disguise. How you doing, buddy? Have a good Thanksgiving and all? Yeah? Well, that's nice.

Now back to what's important.

Hmm. I also have trouble sparring with heavier guys in my class, so I find myself using the duck under for some reason. Maybe it'll work for you, maybe it won't. But I'd give it a try, though, if you haven't already.

My 2 cents.

Oh, if it is Oma, alot more makes sense now.

Duck under is ok, but again you have to tie up with the opponent. Tying up is generally not better for the smaller guy.

[MasterGrappler]

Originally Posted by Adept

Yeah, i think it's obvious "MasterGrappler" is our good friend, OmaPlata, in disguise. How you doing, buddy? Have a good Thanksgiving and all? Yeah? Well, that's nice.

Now back to what's important.

Hmm. I also have trouble sparring with heavier guys in my class, so I find myself using the duck under for some reason. Maybe it'll work for you, maybe it won't. But I'd give it a try, though, if you haven't already.

My 2 cents.

Hey Inept, like i told JTard mr white belt himself, I just shaved my low hanging baseball sized testicles, so Im going to allow you just one lick, just one, to get as much sweat off of them as you can, JTard cheated and couldnt hold back and took 3 licks before I had to bitch slap him, so behave down there lil fella

[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by MasterGrappler

Hey Inept, like i told JTard mr white belt himself, I just shaved my low hanging baseball sized testicles, so Im going to allow you just one lick, just one, to get as much sweat off of them as you can, JTard cheated and couldnt hold back and took 3 licks before I had to bitch slap him, so behave down there lil fella

Again, with continuance of unintelligence, lack of maturity, and cowardice.

Please... I would'nt growths on your vagina testicles... that's just nasty. Are you shaving them to have them removed?

Oma is just mad cause he dont get laid.

[MasterGrappler]

Originally Posted by J-Luck

Again, with continuance of unintelligence, lack of maturity, and cowardice.

Please... I would'nt growths on your vagina testicles... that's just nasty. Are you shaving them to have them removed?

Oma is just mad cause he dont get laid.

what? try to make sense at least jr. us educated folk need at least a partial fragment of a sentence to make sense out of it, so try again tool.
Laid? I guarantee beyond all facts that Ive came inside girls that u would jack off to, and that you would never get to have sex with even if you HAD money to pay.

[13ang]

Come on man...

I understand you might be some young kid, but cant you understand you just make yourself look worse by acting this way =[

[Adept]

Originally Posted by J-Luck

Duck under is ok, but again you have to tie up with the opponent. Tying up is generally not better for the smaller guy.

True, clinching with a heavier opponent is never a good idea. It's going to sound weird, but just don't clinch for long. It's like a shooting duck under almost. But hey, who knows, maybe you can catch the bigger guy off balance or off guard or something when you try the duck under.

Originally Posted by MasterGrappler

Hey Inept, like i told JTard mr white belt himself, I just shaved my low hanging baseball sized testicles, so Im going to allow you just one lick, just one, to get as much sweat off of them as you can, JTard cheated and couldnt hold back and took 3 licks before I had to bitch slap him, so behave down there lil fella

Lol? Excuse me? You want to play this game again, sir? I asked how your Thanksgiving was and you want to wage mind wars again? You know, the British got their asses kicked by the Americans in the Revolutionary War by making the same mistakes you did. Tsk tsk. Please Oma, you're like some random girl at a club for me...you're TOO EASY. I'll impose my will on you, kid, but out of respect for this forum, I'll just let what you said slide.

Why'd you change your name to MasterGrappler anyways? The forum moderator warned you one too many times and decided to ban your previous name(s)?

Why did you even post a pic of a girl and her dog anyways? Is that suppose to prove something?

[MasterGrappler]

Originally Posted by Adept

True, clinching with a heavier opponent is never a good idea. It's going to sound weird, but just don't clinch for long. It's like a shooting duck under almost. But hey, who knows, maybe you can catch the bigger guy off balance or off guard or something when you try the duck under.



Lol? Excuse me? You want to play this game again, sir? I asked how your Thanksgiving was and you want to wage mind wars again? You know, the British got their asses kicked by the Americans in the Revolutionary War by making the same mistakes you did. Tsk tsk. Please Oma, you're like some random girl at a club for me...you're TOO EASY. I'll impose my will on you, kid, but out of respect for this forum, I'll just let what you said slide.

Why'd you change your name to MasterGrappler anyways? The forum moderator warned you one too many times and decided to ban your previous name(s)?

Why did you even post a pic of a girl and her dog anyways? Is that suppose to prove something?

I am from america so whats with the limey references?, perhaps san diego is a place that u have never heard of since your small wallet doesnt allow travels to places like that.

My girl is hotter than anything you or Jtard have ever scored. (ill take the pic down out of respect)And the fact you mention picking up girls at a 'club' further proves my point that you actually dont pick up girls anywhere

[aikithai]

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Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
R.Sosa

[aikithai]

Can anyone help me to find a fight of John Sosa fights in Chandler Arizona in 1992, there were many fights from the rainbow camp of Kru Rick Sosa, and I am in need of this fight with john sosa, the fight was held at fairtex gym with a bob carmel!
I have tried to find this fight and will pay good if someone out there can help me locate ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Thank you
R.Sosa